In a tough spot with QQ

What is tough here ? You have many way better hands to call here, fold flop (unless he is really donking 100%).

The BB seems crazy so far in the 11 previous hands and he can easy donk with a draw on flop and I don’t think it’s too bad to call the flop and turn when the 2nd ace arrived. River is a complete blank and without reads you could bluff catch with QQ I think, but it’s close for sure.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Originally posted by SDK1987
The BB seems crazy so far in the 11 previous hands and he can easy donk with a draw on flop and I don’t think it’s too bad to call the flop and turn when the 2nd ace arrived. River is a complete blank and without reads you could bluff catch with QQ I think, but it’s close for sure.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Two flaws in your reasoning:

1) You take 11 hands of the opponent and try to reason of a sample that is effectively tiny and therefore not valid to draw any conclusions from
2) On lower limits people tend to not triple-barrel bluff. Therefore the idea of bluffcatching imo is very bad on 10NL, especially on a runout like this.

--> Easy fold. I may consider folding the turn already, but there are too many draws out there I guess, and he may even bet Tx because he doesn't know better.

I'd call once. I definitely need an A to call all the way. Already AJ and smaller A are a bit shaky (but perhaps wimpy to fold).

correct me if im wrong as I dont use tracker or any other helper.
but if his last 11 hands he is (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 54.55 and he hasnt shown any moves in calling raises should give you a red flag. to me he is in trap mode and looking to set it if he is not the type to get all happy and shove his big pocket pairs. Id say hes holding AA or AK and your had.

One thing I see out there and dont understand. after the flop it was call, call, call . Just curious here when were you going to find out how much he liked his hand ? ( no re raise to find out ? ) on the turn you put in 11.2 bb you could use some of that on the flop and still get away from the hand cheaper plus if you put any more in on river.
38.1 bb in pot on river makes it hard to get away from if he bets right he gets paid off.
Just was I see good luck at the tables

Originally posted by TEXASDUKE1
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Just curious here when were you going to find out how much he liked his hand ? ( no re raise to find out ? ) on the turn you put in 11.2 bb you could use some of that on the flop and still get away from the hand cheaper plus if you put any more in on river.
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Raising to "see where you are at" (only!) with trash is usually a very, very bad idea.

6-max QQ is a bad Hand ?
If you think QQ is a bad hand after the fop then why are you putting more chips in.
If you stay in and keep paying him off just to keep him honest I would think that was a flaw in your game.
I dont see any play to get any more information to help make a solid thought about the players hand.
Plus I have no idea what the Hero thought the player had for a hand so to make any more assumptions would be hard.
thank you for your comment

QQ is strong preflop and strong on many flops, when we "hit" overpair (or better). But after overcard like A on this case, we are not good enough. We have mostly only bluffcatcher (maybe few Tx hands if he overplays), we didnt beat anything from his value range.

Originally posted by TEXASDUKE1
6-max QQ is a bad Hand ?
If you think QQ is a bad hand after the fop then why are you putting more chips in.
If you stay in and keep paying him off just to keep him honest I would think that was a flaw in your game.
I dont see any play to get any more information to help make a solid thought about the players hand.
Plus I have no idea what the Hero thought the player had for a hand so to make any more assumptions would be hard.
thank you for your comment

Don't raise with bluff catchers. Raise with good hands - or hands with potential to become good hands as a bluff. With bluff catchers you call or fold. If you raise, only worse hands will fold. Now, what good does that do to you?

The poster of this thread should read himself into relative handstrenghts, and that hands can lose their value postflop, and generally get an idea what people can hold when they choose strong lines like this

Originally posted by YohanN7

Originally posted by TEXASDUKE1
6-max QQ is a bad Hand ?
If you think QQ is a bad hand after the fop then why are you putting more chips in.
If you stay in and keep paying him off just to keep him honest I would think that was a flaw in your game.
I dont see any play to get any more information to help make a solid thought about the players hand.
Plus I have no idea what the Hero thought the player had for a hand so to make any more assumptions would be hard.
thank you for your comment

Don't raise with bluff catchers. Raise with good hands - or hands with potential to become good hands as a bluff. With bluff catchers you call or fold. If you raise, only worse hands will fold. Now, what good does that do to you?

I dont see his play as a bluff play to be caught. To me it is a trap play because he shows always raising preflop. unless your able to put him on a hand fast (preflop)
hes needs to protect and find out where he is at. going to the river to see if you win is giving away chips and letting him win if he makes his hand. too risky with just 1 pair.