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KK on paired Flop, check-raised [45-man]

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vlzvl
Joined: 17.03.2014

PokerStars $0.23+$0.02 - NLHE Tournament (SNG, 45-man, regular) - 80/160/20 Blinds - 5 players

HJ: 2428 (15 bb)
Hero (CO): 4176 (23 bb*)
BTN: 11840 (74 bb)
SB: 6793 (42 bb)
BB: 4879 (30 bb), (84) VP:27 PFR:17 AF:0.9 3B:9 AS:60 FS:40 CB:16 FC:0 WS:42 W$:75

bb* = adjusted blinds for antes

Preflop: (340) Hero is CO with K :club: K :diamond:
1 fold, Hero raises to 320, 2 folds, BB calls 160

Flop: (820) 7 :diamond: 7 :spade: 9 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 330, BB raises to 660, Hero ???

I'm usually opening this to x2.5bb (400) but it seemed table is rather folding too easily, plus i wanted BB to call as he seemed too loose and unpredictable post-flop.
However, my interest is post-flop. I chose to C-bet less than 50% because of relatively dry flop, while still charging flush draws with my 40% pot size bet. The BB then check-raised me and i easily shoved on him, expecting him to have X7 i.e. 87 or A7 a tiny fraction of time here.
I expect him to have some flush draws that he elected to play it that way rather calling my bet or some high cards, but i'm not quite sure of this check-raise and what it means.
1. What this check-raise usually means?
2. Should i just call because he's OOP and allow him to bluff more?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

The BB seems not like a bad player. Off course his gap between VPIP and PFR is too big.
A min check raise looks always strong in my opinion, but it’s tough for him to beat us. Only 33 and 99 are hands he could have that we lose against and I would most likely go broke here to protect our hand against flush draws.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Primrose6789
Joined: 01.07.2016

Hero calls.

Two 7s on the flop, so it´s unlikely that he´s go a x-7 combo. Those, 99 and AA are beating us.

Call and see the turn. I think I would call flop and turn and jam river.


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vlzvl
Joined: 17.03.2014

Originally posted by SDK1987
The BB seems not like a bad player. Off course his gap between VPIP and PFR is too big.
A min check raise looks always strong in my opinion, but it’s tough for him to beat us. Only 33 and 99 are hands he could have that we lose against and I would most likely go broke here to protect our hand against flush draws.

Cheers,
SDK1987

No, he's not bad but he seemed unpredictable and out of the blue aggressive. He 3-betted around 9% against virtually unknowns which i find a bit high (at least for me) and post-flop was stubborn. My thinking was if he has a flush draw, i'm inclined to risk it to get at least 2 bets from him, given he will mostly have garbage but couldn't resist not betting his junk on Turn.
Anyway, thanx guys :f_thumbsup:


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Okkernootje
Joined: 02.09.2013

Originally posted by vlzvl
I chose to C-bet less than 50% because of relatively dry flop, while still charging flush draws with my 40% pot size bet.

I like this one. So many people still have a standard cbet sizing, no matter what the flop comes.

1. What this check-raise usually means?

This is the most interesting question, and for observant readers (or posters) on the forum, this is where the real value comes from imo when comparing experiences with eachother. Its cool to discuss and together try to build up a feeling for player pool tendencies on shared stakes. There are actually a lot of them when I think of it, and I think you will have surely encountered them yourselves too:
- an open shove in the early stages...
- a limp shove when iso'd...
- a min donk bet...

And this one, the min check raise on such a board, is probably also one. I think it rarely means villain has got air. Nor do I think it is an overpair a lot or a weakish draw. It's probably a 7x most of the time combined with a fair amount of strong draws,... it hits villains range a lot better than ours.

Would be interesting to see what you all think. I'm thinking of running a HM filter on this, trying to see if I can find a pattern.


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