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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.85
Hero (SB): $10.05
BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 21.35, PFR: 17.30, 3Bet Preflop: 7.10, Hands: 461)
UTG: $29.46 (VPIP: 20.50, PFR: 14.91, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 167)
MP: $14.33 (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)
CO: $11.38 (VPIP: 22.86, PFR: 15.24, 3Bet Preflop: 10.81, Hands: 107)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 5♥ 5♠

fold, MP raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, fold, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20, 4 players) J♥ T♣ 5♦
Hero checks, BB checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.60, Hero raises to $1.80, BB calls $1.80, fold, fold

Turn: ($5.40, 2 players) 9♦
Hero checks, BB bets $2.84, fold

Spoiler

BB wins $5.16

Seems like an odd line for me to take.
This guy is a reg. (not sure why it's showing 30 hands.)
When I raise flop and he flats, it looks realllly strong. his range ( I imagine) can be 10J, sets, possibly QK.
I know I totally nitted this out with a fold, but I just never imagine him betting 10J on this turn, and what else do we beat?


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CucumbaMan
Joined: 13.10.2017

I think it could be AJ as well, so I'd probably call here.


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Tim128
Joined: 29.01.2017

Your line looks a bit as a try once to bluff opponent off his hand, then give up, I would valuebet KJ+ as villain here


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

I'd just check call the flop 4way, under rep our hand
Especially if you fold now that's just a disaster to c/r

this is a doomsday range we give him 22.16% and need 25.6 and we should at least some more hands than that right


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

I would easy call
You maybe have the best hand and you have 10 outs to improve

But after raising flop why miss the turn bet?
Why raising and give up?
What would you have done on a turn blank? Maybe 2?


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sdf256
Joined: 21.07.2016

Lemon said an interesting option that I didnt really think about - to under rep your hand. But I think during the session I wouldnt think about it and raise the flop as you did, but then I would bet the turn as well. And if I checked the turn, then I would call his bet. Not sure if thats good tho. Im still learning.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by LemOn36
I'd just check call the flop 4way, under rep our hand
Especially if you fold now that's just a disaster to c/r

this is a doomsday range we give him 22.16% and need 25.6 and we should at least some more hands than that right

After he cold-flats my re-pop in a multiway pot with people left behind I think a doomsday range is totally reasonable to assign.
What other hands can we give him in this situation. There are none.

Originally posted by Talisker74
I would easy call
You maybe have the best hand and you have 10 outs to improve

But after raising flop why miss the turn bet?
Why raising and give up?
What would you have done on a turn blank? Maybe 2?

The reasons already stated (read the post).
On a blank turn, perhaps lead again.


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Schertle
Joined: 04.09.2017

What do you guys think about betting small on turn and fold to raise ?


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sdf256
Joined: 21.07.2016

Originally posted by Schertle
What do you guys think about betting small on turn and fold to raise ?

Yes like I said, bet is what I would prefer OTT. I think bet/folding is better than check/calling.


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AKCZ16
Joined: 11.07.2016

b/f turn imo. I don't understand c/r flop and check turn.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

4 way we should bet ourselves on flop ....


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

What lemon suggested can be fine.
After villain called our raise I still wouldn't put him on that doomsday range.
OTT I would continue betting. And as played vs that bet I would call.


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