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3bet spot SBvsBTN, pot bet OTT with FD

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MatoStar
Joined: 22.07.2017

PF: Quite standard, sizing could be 7bb, but I think thats ok too.

OTF: I cbet just 1/3pot even with value hands, because the flop is very dry, so I dont see any reason to bet bigger. And I have quite enough outs, which can improve my hand and makes me possible to continue with betting.

OTT: Nice card for us, but unfortunately for him as well. The question is: Is he able to fold on pot bet any Jx hand? Personally I would fold sth like JTo,J9s,JTs, but not sure about it, but people are overfolding on pot bet around 60% of thetime (my coach said me this number). And definitely I would play exactly this line with some AK,AQ,AJ,AA,JJ... Which sizing do you prefer?

OTR: I think I havent enough FE to bet here, because he called pot bet OTT, so he should have a strong hand. So easy check/fold.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It would be nice to know what kind of player we are dealing with.

Now it’s a complete unknown for us. It’s a little bit weird you bet small on the flop and big when you get more equity in the hand. I would bet half pot on every street. Now it looks like if I was villain that you want to bluff me of the hand on the turn.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We can xc turn.


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Varune
Joined: 24.04.2009

I'd like to know what coach tells you to pot this turn.

If i were to bet this turn, i'd opt for a normal sizing in the 66% range, if you pot this it doesn't make sense imo with your range and what you're trying to do.

That being said, i would also often x/c this on the turn, This turn is great for his floats, most people float Ax backdoors, all wheel draws would've floated flop, backdoor Axss would've floated flop, All those combo's hit that ace, they will never fold improved.
Then what about his Jx and other pp's, those might fold vs a bet, hard to say what portion of his range that is, we even 'block tt/99 and TJ/J9, which are possible combo's he could fold.
Besides we are 'protected' by our own wheel/Ax combo's so he won't fire blind on this turn, so it'll often go check/check on the turn if he holds Jx/pp and we get a free river.


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

I would bet bigger on the flop 1/2 pot
You need 33% of folds
And you wouldn’t be sad if villain folds here...
Villain can call here any trash hand without making an mistake
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I guess the bet is much to big to be +ev
BTN has so much Ax and better BDF in his range
He will fold his air and continue with better hands than yours
King in spades would have been better to semi bluff


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chiaradiapoker
Joined: 03.02.2010

I prefer bet 8/10bbs on flop, and then 15bbs on turn. On flop the board is so dry to he fold a pair hand, so i prefer to charge his highcards hands, then on the turn the As is perfect for you because you have tons of A and really have the FD, so i bet probably 50% of pot, not need to bet so much because if he had a pair hand will be difficult to pay, at least that he was a fishy that likes to call and guess..


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