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Hey,

Reviewing the last played SNG this hand tricks me out.
MP3 as others players are "limping" players and with hands such 62o, Ax, Q3 and so on.
I decided to stab @sb due excellent odds 10-1.
Flop: Mp3 betting 1bb I supposed he was defending a bottom pair. I decided to just call because I didn't see a value and would love to play this hand cheaply.
Turn: I made a flush and MP3 against bet 1bb and I decided to just call to maintain in-game pars, 2 pars, etc.
River: as mp3 player was leading the hand I decided to check-raise and was a surprise when he 3bets shove me. What is the odds of he had a diamond suited hand I thought to myself? There are 13 diamonds, 5 of them are already known and 8 of them are in the middle of other cards - MP3 had 21% of chance to have a suited diamond card and a little more than 50% would be higher than 9. I decided to go broke.

My thinking about this hand is:

Should I play it pre-flop in the early game?
Marginal hands like that will affect my image's table badly and won't be good for the tourney.
On the river, I played too much aggressive and should just call?

Poker Stars, $0.23 Buy-in (15/30 blinds, 4 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): 1,689 (56.3 bb)
BB: 1,572 (52.4 bb)
UTG+2: 1,924 (64.1 bb)
MP1: 2,599 (86.6 bb)
MP2: 1,395 (46.5 bb)
MP3: 1,457 (48.6 bb)
CO: 1,549 (51.6 bb)
BTN: 1,315 (43.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4♦: 9♦:
UTG+2 calls 30, 2 folds, MP3 calls 30, CO calls 30, BTN folds, Hero completes, BB checks

Flop: (182) Q♦: 3♣: 7♦: (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets 30, CO folds, Hero calls 30, BB folds, UTG+2 calls 30

Turn: (272) J♦: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets 30, Hero calls 30, UTG+2 calls 30

River: (362) 2♣: (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets 120, Hero raises to 521, UTG+2 folds, MP3 raises to 1,363 and is all-in, Hero calls 842

Results:

Spoiler

3,088 pot
Final Board: Q♦: 3♣: 7♦: J♦: 2♣:
Hero showed 4♦: 9♦: and lost (-1,457 net)
UTG+2 mucked and lost (-94 net)
MP3 showed A♦: K♦: and won 3,088 (1,631 net)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Over limping in the SB isn’t to bad with a suited hand against so many players. So long you will play it careful post-flop if you hit a pair. I would only raise post-flop with 2 pair or better.

The turn seems like an easy raise to me. Especially multi way you want to build up a pot with the flush and his bet looks weak. Also you want to protect your flush, because if there comes a :diamond: comes you hand is dead most of the time and a paired board would be bad as well.

Now it ends up in a cooler op de river I think and is going broke here not bad. It’s not to likely he has a flush as well based on his weak post-flop play until the river.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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msmozzarella
Joined: 14.03.2017

Assuming that both MP3 and UTG+2 are loose/weak, then I think you are so far ahead of their ranges that you should raise the turn almost 100% of the time. There are alot of weak suited hands in their limping ranges that may very well pay you of, and by flatting you are losing value I think. Also you are pretty deep so you won't be comitted if the river is a low :diamond:.


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