2 pair vs UTG narrow range

I would have already folded the preflop . But if I had called, then I would have played the river in a different way , I would have check the river and then looked at how big his bets . And according to his bet
I would have called or folded it.

I would consider a fold preflop, but it depends on what kind of fish utg is. You say he's a fish with a wide opening range, so the call might be okay.
Flop: okay
Turn: A bet/c is okay only if you think lower 2pairs are in his range, but if they are, then J9 also is in his range. I guess vs a fish, a ch behind otf and min raise the turn flush draw is a slim possibility. I doubt an isd raises ott.
River: I guess you call a 1/2 bet here if you call ott. You have to be good 1/3 of the time, tho

Originally posted by RentzEst
I would have already folded the preflop

I can see why!

Interesting River line. Seems reasonable to me!

@negtv: cool, that you mention the odds. That was one thing, I had in mind. Somehow, I'm addicted to that feeling of catching someone naked, although I didn't see him bluff too often in this particular spot. I'm not sure if I am right 1/3rd of the time with my hand (I can say it now that my brain isn't gone anymore xD). Lower 2pairs are rarely in his turnrange, I think. I assume "typical nl2-Villain" playing with less than 100bb bets usually any Ace on the flop, like: yay, top pair!!

What's ISD - inside straight draw = gutshot? If that's true, I also don't think he's doing so. More often Villain x/c gutshots.

Bottom line is: as played (=bluffcatcher), I should have x/c river depending on betsize.

Thanks for your time and effort! I really appreciate it

In general a minraise after flop by a recreational player is usually a sign of at least a strong made hand if not even nuts. So unless you have some other reads I would be very cautious. I think by turn your play is fine. Call pre definitely, unless BB is overly agro in which case he could be tempted to iso the fish. Fold pre is too weak against a fish imo. Flop x/c ok. If he checks then you should lead T even without the second pair. You are likely to have the best hand and he might be chasing some draws, Q is gonna call definitely, so you have value.
After the raise my play would be call and hope for a full house on the river. If not, then c/c a small bet OTR. I think the donk on the river is an overplay by itself not to mention your call of the shove. He is not bluffing enough in this spot I think and his value range you beat is not shoving. He still has AA, QQ, TT, KJ, AQ in his range.

Awesome man, that is one hell of a nice analysation! very clear to me, that this is the right way to go in this spot!

preflop: a fold oop against a utg raiser is ok. But if you are sure utg plays a wide range, AND if you never have seen bb to squeeze, a call with suited AT is not a fault.

flop: you have top pair. His range will more probably hit the board than your range, so you want to check/call. Utg cb, so he has no A, no 2pair, and no set. There is no flush draw and no OESD. So all he can have is a mid pair or a gutshot.

turn: you hit 2pair. So you bet. A bit high, perhaps, you want him to call. He minraises. That will not be a bluff. His hand has improved ott. Hi might have met his gutshot with KJ or J9s (J9o would be very loose pf). He might have hit 2pair with QT. He might have hit a set. You have odds 1:2,6, you get pot odds 1:4,2. Call.

river: a blank. you are behind 1:3,5. A block bet would take a wide bluff range of utg for granted, but after the turn minraise, you could nearly exclude any bluffs (against the regular NL2 fishes). So there is nothing to accomplish with a bet. Just check. He WILL bet, as he has at least 2pair, and if he bets max. 20% pot, you get the pot odds to call.

Cool, I really like your clear estimation! Until the turn I could follow easily, but calculating the odds and thinking about ranges I probably would already timed out ingame. I just "felt" like the way you say, but since I somehow lost my mind, I didn't follow this feeling. I don't know if that exactly makes sense, but yeah, thank you all for taking part in this discussion!