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AA in 3way pot with 2 fish

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juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $7 (140 bb)
BB: $4.07 (81.4 bb) 35/15 H:28
UTG: $6.90 (138 bb)
Hero (MP): $5.87 (117.4 bb)
CO: $6.95 (139 bb)
BTN: $3.21 (64.2 bb) 40/10 H:11

Preflop: Hero is MP with A♠: A♣:
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, BTN calls $0.15, SB folds, BB raises to $0.55, Hero raises to $1.55, CO folds, BTN calls $1.40, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.82) T♦: J♣: 9♦: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.32 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.66 and is all-in, BB calls $2.52 and is all-in

Turn: ($11.52) K♥: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($11.52) K♠: (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results:

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$11.52 pot ($0.48 rake)
Final Board: T♦: J♣: 9♦: K♥: K♠:
BB showed Q♦: Q♥: and won $11.04 ($6.97 net)
Hero showed A♠: A♣: and lost (-$4.07 net)
BTN showed A♦: J♦: and lost (-$3.21 net)

Is my preflop 4bet size ok, or too big?
I shove the flop because there are a lot of worst hands that can call us, espacially against this wider range fishes.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

You can even just push preflop with so many people interested in the pot.


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DannyHorsley
Joined: 03.12.2014

Originally posted by juhiimi

Is my preflop 4bet size ok, or too big?

Typically when 4betting pre flop you should size about 2.2x-2.5x the 3bet. So in this case I would have raised to about $1.30. If doing this puts in more than 1/3 of our stack, we are usually better to just shove. Since BB has only $4.07 behind, I would say we can shove here pre flop. He seems a bit fishy so I think we will get enough calls.

Originally posted by juhiimi

I shove the flop because there are a lot of worst hands that can call us, espacially against this wider range fishes.

I think the shove OTF is questionable. We are betting quite large (almost full pot). What is calling us here that we beat? AJ, Qx or a diamond combo? Even if we do get called by the draws were about 55% favourite to win. I'd say we check here and see what opponent does. Maybe call a small bet and see the turn.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We cannot cbet/fold on flop with the stack left. Checking and letting villain draw for free is not ok too.


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Ac3onth3riv3r
Joined: 17.02.2017

With so many players commited to the pot, push all in preflop is justfied. As you played shove OTF is fine. Flop is draw heavy and you want to protect your hand


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xiaohetao
Joined: 29.05.2018

Preflop 4 bet size was good. Shoving was fine too. With KK oop, I would shove. With AA I prefer 4bet.

As played, shoving otf was the only choice. You definitely don't want to see any turn cards, and you did allin when you had the best hand.


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