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peshotar
Joined: 17.10.2010

First of all about preflop. I was really tninking what to do. I was between going all in and calling. The reason not to go all in was because I thought my hand would be pretty obvious. I don`t think it is possible to have many other hands different from QQ+ if I make a 4 bet or go all in, after two people have raised before that and on of them is UTG. On the other hand, I knew that I`ll go in not the best spot if I call, but believed at least my hand would not be so obvious.
The flop was not bad, as I believe there are not so many flush draws except AKs, but I have blockers for the kings, so there are only two kings and AQs, which is possible and maybe AJs. The other hands that i believed are possible are some sort of pocket pairs for UTG. I am not absolutely why i checked, but maybe i believed not many worse hands will call if I had bet and I believed the original aggresor would bet.
The turn is also a good card and as I am reviewing the hand now I believe i should bet here.
On the river I don`t believe anybody of them have a 3. After they both checked the turn I bet for some value.
As as conclusion, for me the hand was very difficult and maybe if I had gone all in before the flop everything would be much simple.

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partypoker fastforward, Hold'em No Limit - $0.05/$0.10 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

EnKuzaOvceJedo (UTG): $10.23 (102 bb)
Dzabbar (MP): $29.80 (298 bb)
swPoison (CO): $10.00 (100 bb)
OMGd0se (BU): $13.51 (135 bb)
kingdodi (SB): $12.29 (123 bb)
Nasup256 (BB): $19.85 (199 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15) Hero (kingdodi) is SB with K K
EnKuzaOvceJedo (UTG) raises to $0.30, Dzabbar (MP) calls $0.30, 1 fold, OMGd0se (BU) 3-bets to $1.35, kingdodi (SB) calls $1.30, 2 players fold, Dzabbar (MP) calls $1.05

Flop: ($4.45) 5 3 T (3 players)
kingdodi (SB) checks, Dzabbar (MP) checks, OMGd0se (BU) bets $1.56, kingdodi (SB) calls $1.56, Dzabbar (MP) calls $1.56

Turn: ($9.13) 7 (3 players)
kingdodi (SB) checks, Dzabbar (MP) checks, OMGd0se (BU) checks

River: ($9.13) 3 (3 players)
kingdodi (SB) bets $4.34, 2 players fold

Total pot: $9.13 (Rake: $0.45)
kingdodi (SB) wins $8.68


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by peshotar
As as conclusion, for me the hand was very difficult and maybe if I had gone all in before the flop everything would be much simple.

Hi peshotar,
Yeah -- simple maybe, but doing that would just get the blinds and dead money.
This way, you get the flop money as well.

I am not absolutely why i checked, but maybe i believed not many worse hands will call if I had bet and I believed the original aggresor would bet.

Yeah, I hate it when they check back! That's the power of position.
I think that in this case, a bet is worthwhile, even if it gets two folds. You don't mind the folds because it turns your equity (and theirs too) into cash.

I'm curious to see what others think, too...
VS


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

I definitely would not invite 2 more guys to see the flop and play 4 way and out of position vs everyone. Definitely a 4bet here.

In multiway pots with a made hand I sometimes just like to donk and play it straight forward. The chance it goes checked through is high. That could divide opinions but I do it from time to time.

As played, I guess postflop was just fine. I would just never play preflop like that.


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peshotar
Joined: 17.10.2010

I agree 4 bet is better here. I am not sure if I was on BU if call with kings is ok against so many players.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Well, do you want to weaken your odds of winning and have difficulties when you play postflop? Just keep it simple and get kings in pre-flop.


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bigdog63
Joined: 24.10.2011

+1


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Tonyx86
Joined: 28.03.2018

With Premium hands u will find urself postplop in WAWB situations too often. Its much harder to get it in post flop than with a PF 4bet. Villains call lighter as they expect u to (bluff)squeeze. With flat calling u open up opportunities for them hitting a monster. And then its getting tough.

Easy straight forward with QQ+.


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