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Mortero
Joined: 17.06.2017

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - €0.05/€0.10 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: €8.89 (89 bb)
MP: €9.62 (96 bb)
CO (Hero): €10.00 (100 bb)
BU: €11.05 (111 bb)
SB: €19.15 (192 bb)
BB: €11.65 (117 bb)

Pre-Flop: (€0.15) Hero is CO with J T
2 players fold, Hero raises to €0.23, BTN calls €0.23, 2 players fold

Flop: (€0.61) 5 J 8 (2 players)
Hero bets €0.32, BTN calls €0.32

Turn: (€1.25) J (2 players)
Hero bets €0.65, BTN raises to €2.10, CO (Hero) folds

Total pot: €2.55 (Rake: €0.13)
BU wins €2.42

Villain is a fairly fishy unknown, and OTT even tho there are some fishy draws, i struggled to find enough hands to beat other than bluffs. I also block some draws with the T♥:, leaving him IMO with a very polarized range of bluffs and better hands, so i decided to fold OTT. Could use some feedback tho, working on my game . Thanks all!


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

I wonder how a player can be both fairly fishy and unknown :P

I suppose it's a discipline fold against that opponent indeed.


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Mortero
Joined: 17.06.2017

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
I wonder how a player can be both fairly fishy and unknown :P

Well, its an opponent who i have not categorized yet, but its leaning a lot towards a rec, based on the stats i can exploit so far ^^


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Fanko
Joined: 24.08.2010

Another easy call.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

You fold top set with a blocker in this spot? Owowow that really proves Floxy's theory about NL10 nititude.
Now seriously, to fold that I need solid info. I mean, really solid. He has draws in his raising range and all that stuff.
You bet 1/3, improve and then bet 1/2 on a drawy board. Any decent player is able to raise you here even with air. Come on.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

You blocker is helping you to fold because you're blocking his bluffs.
I think it's underbluffed as hell at zoom10 here indeed anyway.


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GridironAssassin
Joined: 19.12.2014

You are getting @ 3:1 on a call and you have a 4:1 draw to a boat. You have 10 "nutted" outs, plenty of stack depth behind and a ton of implied odds. Call Turn/Evaluate River.


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

We don't have the same way to count outs lol. I'm sick and tired tonight but I'm pretty sure this game isn't supposed to be played with several decks.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Solved it out for curiosity.
Pre is ok.
Flop is a check-raise.
Turn is a 1/2 bet. When he raises it's a call.


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GridironAssassin
Joined: 19.12.2014

Originally posted by zetozinho
Solved it out for curiosity.
Pre is ok.
Flop is a check-raise.
Turn is a 1/2 bet. When he raises it's a call.

I agree C/R turn is far superior play.

However, as played:

Vs. all fat value (88, 55, AJs, KJs, QJs, J10s, J9s J8s) you have 23.5%, the turn call is basically break even.

Vs. All fat value plus his most logical raise (T9s), you are 34%. Folding a hand that has 34% when you are getting offered 3:1 is a clear mistake. Add one fishy merged raise (99? QQ? QTdd?) and your equity skyrockets >50%. All 8's (3), 5's (3), 10's (3) and the last J give you ten "nutted" outs, not the necessarily the nuts, but certainly a monster hand...…..Vs. flopped sets (either 55 or 88), you have 7 outs to the absolute nuts and MASSIVE implied odds (you stack him every time).


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Mozzek
Joined: 16.07.2016

Agreed. Bf OTT is a huge deviation from GTO, you would need very strong reads to do this.

Can anybody explain logic behind xr OTF?


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

The thing is it's zoom10. I hate to say "they always have it", but if there is only one place in the whole world where they always have it as played, it's zoom10 nitland.
What's also true though is that I had totally overlooked how deep we still were, sorry about that, so calling can't be that bad indeed.


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

I would call here
BTN can have QQ+ TT-99 some draws

River Couleur be difficult to play Even Ägäis to unknown villain


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by Talisker74
BTN can have QQ+ TT-99 some draws

I could bet my whole bankroll he hasn't any of this hands (QQ and TT-99, not the draws).
Not that I have such a huge roll anyway but then again.
Not 3betting QQ pre BU vs CO is really rare, moreover when not raising on the flop either. When the turn doubles it's way too late for that. As for TT-99 it would be stupid too as it doesn't value anything and block straight draws, what would the point be ?


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vengeance77
Joined: 18.04.2010

Hello guys,
I find it super to the turn, when we cannot fold! EV of calling and raising 50% is about 10! So this is clear call for me.
Cheers


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY

Originally posted by Talisker74
BTN can have QQ+ TT-99 some draws

I could bet my whole bankroll he hasn't any of this hands (QQ and TT-99, not the draws).
Not that I have such a huge roll anyway but then again.
Not 3betting QQ pre BU vs CO is really rare, moreover when not raising on the flop either. When the turn doubles it's way too late for that. As for TT-99 it would be stupid too as it doesn't value anything and block straight draws, what would the point be ?

You are right of villain is an at messt OK reg


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Originally posted by Talisker74
You are right of villain is an at messt OK reg

Even if not reg and not ok, I don't see people raising these PP here. I'd put pretty much any other combo before those.


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