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$2.20 Post-Flop 98s shove

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Qwetzalcoatl
Joined: 17.07.2011

Hi!

I would like to get a second opinion on the hand below. What do you guys think?

To give some background, I don't have any particular reads on the players from previous actions. Pre-flop, both BB and SB are calling quite widely. Flop: I read the bet from hama flut as a blocker for larger bets, form of pot control. As such, I am putting the guy on any broadway overcards (unpaired), one broadway overcard + 9/8/7/6/5, T6,T4,64 or 63. (list for easy copy pasting: AJ, AT, KQ, KJ, KT, QJ, QT, JT, A9,A8,A7,A6,A5,K9,K8,K7,K6,K5,Q9,q8,q7,q6,q5,j9,j8,j7,j6,j5, t9,t8,t7,t6,t5, T6,T4,64, 63). So, I want to raise for protection and to get value from draws. Regarding sizing, I don't think anything less than 5000 would make them make a mistake by calling and by betting 5000+ I am effectively all in, so I decide for all in.

I am thinking that they both can call with A9,A8,A7,A5 ,K9,K8,K7, Q9,q8,j9,j8, t9,t8 and fold the rest. My equity against this range is 63.89%. Equity if I just call is 56% (against 2 players).

So, if I call I am looking at EV 3 900. If I raise all in, I am looking at EV 0.639*27380 (total pot) * 0.20 (this happens in 20% of the hands) + 0.8 * 6280 (rest of the hands I win by having them to fold) = EV 8 523. Is this worth it considering the tournament life? (I knew at that time that I was already in money).

Are there any mistakes in my thinking (putting BB and SB in the specific ranges or in the EV calculations or in my overall decision)? What would you do?

Thanks very much for feedback in advance!

BB: Bulba2 (15375 in chips)
Seat 2: Brito.Aces (49164 in chips)
Seat 3: VitalyMos (33128 in chips)
Seat 4: i$pepla (12259 in chips)
Seat 5: PremiumDesin (40118 in chips)
Seat 6: samot777 (15596 in chips)
Button: Qwetzalcoatl (12385 in chips)
SB: hama flut (34418 in chips)
Bulba2: posts the ante 85
Brito.Aces: posts the ante 85
VitalyMos: posts the ante 85
i$pepla: posts the ante 85
PremiumDesin: posts the ante 85
samot777: posts the ante 85
Qwetzalcoatl: posts the ante 85
hama flut: posts the ante 85
hama flut: posts small blind 350
Bulba2: posts big blind 700
HOLE CARDS (Pot: 1 730)
Dealt to Qwetzalcoatl [9s 8s]
Brito.Aces: folds
VitalyMos: folds
i$pepla: folds
PremiumDesin: folds
samot777: folds
Qwetzalcoatl: raises 700 to 1400
hama flut: calls 1050
Bulba2: calls 700
FLOP [9d 5h 7s] (Pot: 4 880)
hama flut: bets 700
Bulba2: calls 700
Qwetzalcoatl: raises 10200 to 10900 and is all-in
hama flut: calls 10200
Bulba2: folds
TURN [9d 5h 7s] [Th]
RIVER [9d 5h 7s Th] [Ks]

Spoiler

SHOW DOWN
hama flut: shows [Kh 9c] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
Qwetzalcoatl: shows [9s 8s] (a pair of Nines)
hama flut collected 27380 from pot
Qwetzalcoatl finished the tournament in 175th place (in the money, just after the bubble)
SUMMARY
Total pot 27380 | Rake 0
Board [9d 5h 7s Th Ks]


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

i would not go broke with tpwk gs and bdfd thats way to thin mway.

greets

maniac


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Qwetzalcoatl
Joined: 17.07.2011

Thanks!

Would you then call flop and fold to all in on turn/river?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

An option could be to raise like 3k on the flop and shove on a all-inn, but rest seems standard.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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