BB vs UTG

Wow. That's what we call an overplay !
You have a pair dude. Calm down. Just call that turn. That's not the hand you want to make a big bluff with anyway.

In my opinion this is a very bad spew...

You are risking a lot, trying to fold out hands that have no place calling your turn raise. So either the villain is a fish that called with some random 9x hand and we win at showdown (or we get them to fold by shoving as you did), or we are getting called down by sets and K9, QQ, AA.

You are effectively transforming your overpair into a bluff on the turn. Against an unknown player it is probably not a good idea to 4bet against a re-raise on the turn. You aren't beating a lot of hands from his range.

I would most likely 3bet JJ pre-flop, but otherwise I wouldn't raise the turn and call him down most of the time. If you raise ou get only action of better.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Check/raising the turn is anything but a "4bet against a re-raise". Please get your actions correctly.

3betting JJ vs UTG is more often than not overplay. Of course at NL2 pretty much anything goes...

3bet/fold this vs UTG is totally exploitable. Wouldn't be the case at NL2, but at higher limits is totally fishy.
I wanted to turn my hand into a bluff. I know I'm doing that by check-raising turn. But I'm not one of those who check-raises turn and then check-folds river. You have to make it credible.
I also know JJ is not the best hand to do it with, but imagine I had a strong draw or even the nuts.
That's what I want to discuss: this betting line with my whole range vs his range.
I post low stakes hands because I don't have a bankroll to play at higher limits (yet).
You should view this (and other) post of yours truly as discussions that must go beyond the stake in question.

But it's not a matter of stake lol, there isn't a stake where turning JJ into a bluff is a good idea here ! This hand is a good calling candidate is all.

And the higher you play the less you're gonna find spots where you can have such a betting line with your whole range (without having really reduced it before to become much more polarized).

Once someone said: " the way to beat a good poker player is to do exactly the opposite you are supposed to do". So yes, I believe the higher the stakes the more this is a aplliable.
I'm goingo to say it again: I know JJ is not a good bluffing hand.

Originally posted by zetozinho
Once someone said: " the way to beat a good poker player is to do exactly the opposite you are supposed to do".

I just HATE this argument. It's a variant of the good old "Galileo's gambit", aka a stupid sophism where you try to make something plainly stupid pass for something too clever to be understood.
No to win you don't have to "do the opposite of what you should", because to win you should play well, and the opposite is to play bad, and that doesn't win, you can try. If you want to play bad you are not at the good place for that anyway lol.

At higher stakes having hands like JJ in your multibarrel calling range in this type of spot is important so turning it into a bluff is no good.

Originally posted by zetozinhoThat's what I want to discuss: this betting line with my whole range vs his range.

Ok then, please post your stats on cold calling BB vs UTG when everyone else folds, so we can put you on a range. Also post UTG open stats on the villain and the number of hands you have...

I am 99% sure that we will find what I said before - you are risking way too much of your stack trying to fold out hands that usually will not fold.