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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Hi!

This was only 6 players but this was full ring table and what i experience most of players only 4beted just AA. And if i 5beted, maybe KK will fold, but only this my hope, most of time villain shows AA. I lost lot of time nowdays KK vs AA pre flop all in, so i decided just call.
If i just call river i should had to fold or always call 4bet pot especially after villain check the turn.

Villain 20K hands, 15/13, pre flop 3 bet 4.5, pre flop fold 3bet 70, fold to fold 3bet pot 62, total 4bet 6.2

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
UTG: $10.59 (211.8 bb)
Hero (MP): $6.36 (127.2 bb)
CO: $6.13 (122.6 bb)
BTN: $5.25 (105 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K♥: K♣:
UTG raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.52, 3 folds, BB raises to $1.20, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.68

Flop: ($2.57) J♠: 2♦: 5♣: (2 players)
BB bets $1.23, Hero calls $1.23

Turn: ($5.03) 3♠: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.03) 8♠: (2 players)
BB bets $2.79 and is all-in,

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Hero calls $2.79

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Results: $10.61 pot ($0.44 rake)
Final Board: J♠: 2♦: 5♣: 3♠: 8♠:
BB showed A♣: A♥: and won $10.17 ($4.95 net)
Hero showed K♥: K♣: and lost (-$5.22 net)


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Contrary to what many people think, flating KK preflop in this spot is totally fine. I'd even say it is better than 5bet.
I would shove the turn as played.
Anyway you have to call the river bet as well. Don't be afraid of flushes.


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

This guy has AA almost always, you can fold PF, or you can call for a set, you have the right odds I think.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

If you think he's only 4betting with AA I would fold for sure pre-flop with only $4,02 effective behind if you would call here. You don't get the implied odds to call for set value only. Post-flop seems fine, but most of the time I would shove the turn when he's checking to you.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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semiramiRNMD
Joined: 25.10.2009

No it's my mistake. I thought that the original raiser on UTG is 4-betting, but it's another player, so well played in this case.

You don't get the implied odds to call for set value only.

Why not. Provided that he'll call 100% of the time we have .15+.52+1.2=1.87+4.02 (his remaining stack) =5.89 and we have to call .68 to win 6.57 so about 1 in 10 and we will hit a set 1 in 8, so it's +EV, not much though, because we'll lose sometimes when we hit and if we take the rake into account it's about BE probably.


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cms81
Joined: 24.04.2013

I think a call pre is fine with KK especially against what looks like to be a nit however one thing I would like to add is why don't you use 4b range instead of total 4b (just a suggestion) as you have a decent sample this will give you a more accurate reading than total 4b. As played I think you played the hand well maybe take a note that villain checks turn with AA in 4b pot with intentions of check defending?.


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