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Exciting Full Ring Style of Play - not BORING

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srichards
Joined: 26.11.2012

One of my good Poker Strategy friends informed me that he disagreed with my post flop style of slow playing, trapping, and benefiting from my adversaries’ mistakes. His winning style is to play Full Ring in a straight, forward fashion. I agree that several styles of play can be profitable. I did not hesitate one second to check the Turn. This is an example of my love of slow play. All villains wisely checked the Turn. However, one Villain made the mistake of betting big with a strong flush scare board. Of course, I pushed. This is an example of seeking to benefit from villains’ mistakes. Also, my style of play makes Full Ring to be very interesting. Those who say Full Ring is BORING do not play like me. Please do not interpret this post as a silly assertion that my style is superior. Absolutely not! Many better players have made much more money with other approaches.

Ignition - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 96.4 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 25)
SB: 91.5 BB (VPIP: 25.81, PFR: 22.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
BB: 129.7 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 8.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
UTG: 82.7 BB (VPIP: 76.92, PFR: 30.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG+1: 125.6 BB (VPIP: 6.45, PFR: 3.23, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
MP: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 12.90, PFR: 6.45, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 31)
Hero (MP+1): 170.3 BB
CO: 117.2 BB (VPIP: 36.84, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦ 6♦

UTG calls 1 BB, UTG+1 raises to 5 BB, fold, Hero calls 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 4 BB

Flop: (21.5 BB, 4 players) 7♥ J♦ Q♦
UTG bets 6 BB, UTG+1 raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB, CO calls 12 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Turn: (69.5 BB, 4 players) 9♦
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: (69.5 BB, 4 players) K♣
UTG bets 33.1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 153.3 BB and is all-in, fold, UTG calls 32.6 BB and is all-in

Hero wins 190.9 BB


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romanista06
Joined: 03.10.2014

We play poker to win money, if you are making money in FR just stay in your game, but, when you get higher levels, you gonna need play in 6max.
I don't like this line that you adopt, but you are not questioning this, so continue your game and don't care about others players.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Do you want any opinions regarding the hand or it was just a post to exemplify your playing style?
I'm curious to know what is the sample size you have.


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srichards
Joined: 26.11.2012

Originally posted by zetozinho
Do you want any opinions regarding the hand or it was just a post to exemplify your playing style?
I'm curious to know what is the sample size you have.

I am very interested in hearing other people's opinion on whether a style of poker can make the game more interesting. I am responding to those who said full ring poker was boring. Of course, I would like to hear criticism of how I played the hand. I learn a lot from people agreeing or disagreeing with me. I have purposely not presented my bb/100 win rate until I obtain a large sample size. I know that my preflop strategy is unconventional. Thus, it does not deserve to be statistically evaluated until there is a large sample size. I am approaching 20,000 hands since I abandoned standard preflop play.


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srichards
Joined: 26.11.2012

Originally posted by romanista06
We play poker to win money, if you are making money in FR just stay in your game, but, when you get higher levels, you gonna need play in 6max.
I don't like this line that you adopt, but you are not questioning this, so continue your game and don't care about others players.

Sorry, I was not clear. I do care what other players think because I learn from their comments. I agree that full ring is limited to micro and low stakes. Please feel free to criticize my line. I welcome your feedback.


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oblak90
Joined: 03.01.2012

My impression from playing NL10 full ring is that you do not need to play A6s at all. You have so large implied odds that you can wait for much better cards and then double your stack without problem. But I didn't play this variant much.


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

as long as you consider excitement an important factor in poker, you should at least be aware, that the game does not work like that.

poker is applied math. the game is (almost) solved by now. there is right and there is wrong. there is no room left for style.

perfection has no style.


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oblak90
Joined: 03.01.2012

Bullshit. I believe that poker will never be solved because you never know what is inside your opponent mind. Let's play perfect and never imperfect - I would take over your whole bankroll.


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tonypmm
Joined: 11.01.2009

I'd rather be bored and rich than excited and broke (or maddened by coworkers). Thus I strive to keep my winrate high enough given my limited cognitive ability, no matter how tedious the strategy is, because my alternatives are even worse. YMMV.


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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Agreed. Because we won't bleed the blinds so frequently as we do in a short handed game, we could, IMHO, wait for better opportunities to get involved in a hand.

Unless we have a better reason to do the opposite, for example: we are at LP and we have position over a villain that raises and folds a lot to 3bets (so we could 3bet weaker AXs or even more hands) or we have position over a fish that is going to commit his/her whole stack with QQ+ even in bad runouts (massive implied odds) or nits at the blinds. In those cases, we could deviate and start playing (mostly raising) a lot more hands.

Originally posted by oblak90
My impression from playing NL10 full ring is that you do not need to play A6s at all. You have so large implied odds that you can wait for much better cards and then double your stack without problem. But I didn't play this variant much.


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