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(FR) JJ - overpair vs check/raise mw

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

$0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 38.1 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 87.9 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 63.2 BB (VPIP: 5.26, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG+1: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 6.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
MP: 74.6 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP+1: 82 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 60.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+2: 132.2 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
CO: 66.8 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♣ J♥

fold, fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, MP+2 calls 1 BB, CO raises to 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB, SB calls 5.5 BB, fold, MP calls 5 BB, MP+2 calls 5 BB

Flop: (31 BB, 5 players) 8♥ 9♣ 4♦
SB checks, MP checks, MP+2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets 14.8 BB, SB raises to 32.1 BB and is all-in, fold, MP+2 calls 32.1 BB, fold, Hero calls 17.3 BB
Questions and thoughts:

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is this a call, a 4bet push or a fold?
I only had 2 outs to a set and even do my J could give someone else a str8.

Turn: (127.3 BB, 3 players) J♦
MP+2 checks, Hero bets 61.9 BB and is all-in, fold
Questions and thoughts:

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If I didn't hit my set here, would I bet/call, bet/fold, check behind?

River: (127.3 BB, 2 players) 3♠

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SB shows 5♠ 8♠ (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 20%, Flop 20%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 121 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It's a interesting spot for a 3bet pre-flop against a player that could isolate the limpers with a wide range. As played I don't think the over caller has often a monster. he can easy have a 1 pair hand as well and I would isolate with a 3bet shove. if he has 2 pair or better it's to bad.

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SDK1987


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Densyosh
Joined: 30.10.2009

What do you play JJ for, here ? Setmining ? Overpair ?
Look at the SPR preflop, you could call if you played deep or very deep but CO is 66bb deep so your equity is better HU when you don't want to just setmining (which would be good with 22-77) so I guess 3bet is way better than just call..
Now, your sizing flop doesn't mean a lot, be carreful.. look again at SPR and think about it.. question is not what should you do once Vilains moves but what you had to do with your sizing..


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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

Don't recall that exactly, but I guess I only called there because CO was more on the passive side and there was no guarantee those limpers would fold to a 3bet, so I didn't want to isolate a villain holding a better hand.

Originally posted by Densyosh
What do you play JJ for, here ? Setmining ? Overpair ?
Look at the SPR preflop, you could call if you played deep or very deep but CO is 66bb deep so your equity is better HU when you don't want to just setmining (which would be good with 22-77) so I guess 3bet is way better than just call..
Now, your sizing flop doesn't mean a lot, be carreful.. look again at SPR and think about it.. question is not what should you do once Vilains moves but what you had to do with your sizing..


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