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[Closed] Fr 0.05 0.10 strong draw on flop

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Rubbertoe84
Joined: 16.05.2009

what would be the better decision on the flop,call or raise?
also, if i had missed the turn card, should i take a free card or bet?

Known players:      
[tg]SB$5,88:///////;BB$2,43:///////;Hero$3,19:///////;[/tg]
0,05/0,1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.65 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♥, 8♥
UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, BU folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: (4,00 SB) 6♥, 7♥, 3♠ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG2 bets, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Turn: (3,00 BB) T♥ (2 players)
UTG2 checks, Hero bets, UTG2 calls.

River: (5,00 BB) 8♣ (2 players)
UTG2 checks, Hero bets, UTG2 calls.

Final Pot: 7,00 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows a flush, jack high (Jh 8h)
UTG2 shows a pair of fives (5d 5c)

Hero wins with a flush, jack high (Jh 8h)


5 replies

Hi!

If you were last to act on flop and at least 2 people called in front of you ,you can raise you FD for value. This case is not so and it is better to just call,hoping to keep either SB or BB in.

If for example turn was a blank like 2 :club: then I would rather check behind and take a freecard(2 doesnt generate much fold equity and overcards will still call). If turn is something like Q :club: and he checks then you can try to bet since there are many beter cards that can fold (Ax,Kx).
But all this depends on the oponent.If he is calling station with high WTS,betting mostly doesnt make sense,because his check can many times be interpreted as "cheap way to SD" but against a TAG,you can do it.

About preflop...calling is the worst option in this spot imo. J8s you can try to isolate limper ,or can simply fold it. I tend to isolate:)


numpaf
Joined: 11.03.2009

J8s is a bit weak for isolation raise imo. Most of the time UTG limps with small or middle pocket pairs or small suited Ax (at least from my experience :)). J8s has a very bad equity against this type of hands. After only one limper I would fold. After two limpers it's close but I tend to call. After 3 limpers or more - definately overlimp.


HI!

On SH you can raise this hand (very good playability) but folding is of course o.k. too especially since this is FR.


Hello!

Fold it prelfop. Isolation raise would be ok if the villain had 70-80 VPIP and even then we have to take into consideration that someone might call/raise behind us so I'd really just fold it preflop. I'm raising JTs+ or even QTs+ (depending on VPIP).

Raise flop for value if your oponnents are very showdown bound, otherwise the call is good. I don't think a comment is neccessary for turn and river, well played.

I think Bapsy explained it good for turn, I might just add that you have to raise any 5 and any 9 as well for value as you have a monster draw.

Regards,

Primzi


Rubbertoe84
Joined: 16.05.2009

thanks guys, normally i would fold this hand, i played because the opponent were quite weak


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