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Lowest rake room for microstakes?

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mastatroll
Joined: 16.10.2016

Is there a comparison of rake on all available Poker Rooms here in PokerStrategy? I am thinking to grind in some other room than Stars. Rake is killing me.


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Fanko
Joined: 24.08.2010

Your winrate is killing you, not the rake.


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mastatroll
Joined: 16.10.2016

I agree, but why not take advantage of lower rake sites?


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Fanko
Joined: 24.08.2010

You should look for a site with a good rakeback program, not lower rake. Also, strongly advice to work on your game. If you spend 10 % of the time that it took you to play all those hands to improve your game, your winrate would have most likely at least doubled.


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CheesyEagle
Joined: 10.03.2013

I've got some bad news for you...
Pokerstars have the lowest rake out there :truestory:


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ColorFlusher
Joined: 19.01.2008

And so is the rakeback. Lovely 2-3% for winning players :f_mad:


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mastatroll
Joined: 16.10.2016

Originally posted by CheesyEagle
I've got some bad news for you...
Pokerstars have the lowest rake out there :truestory:

For higher stakes it might be true but for microstakes I doubt it. Do you have a comparison table?


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mastatroll
Joined: 16.10.2016

Originally posted by Fanko
You should look for a site with a good rakeback program, not lower rake. Also, strongly advice to work on your game. If you spend 10 % of the time that it took you to play all those hands to improve your game, your winrate would have most likely at least doubled.

The thing is, I ran pretty flat for 30k 40k hands (between 150k - 180k) I started to doubt my game and tried to "improve" my game. Result was spewy play I guess. Take away is don't do fancy stuff at microstakes as repeated by many great players.

I wonder how many percentage of the players in Poker Strategy actually beating their limits, say 7bb+/100 hands over 70k-100k hands. I reckon, not too many people perhaps as low as 1% of all the registered users here.


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Dandiiik
Joined: 19.07.2009

The most important thing when it comes to rake is net rake. A ratio between rake and rakeback. Some poker rooms can have bad rakeback, but they have low rake at the same time. Others have better rakeback but higher rake. I dont have any comparisons but I know that if you want to change poker room for rakeback purposes you should consider this and not just rake or rakeback by themselves.

There are also other aspects to consider. Is there enough traffic? Is the player pool soft enough? Are you sure your money is safe there? Etc. These are factors which directly but a little more invisibly influence your winrate. And better rakeback doesnt have to outweigh that.

Thats why I choose to stay at Pokerstars because there is huge traffic at all times and I trust them with my money. I rather work on my game instead of worrying about rakeback in order to improve my winrate as much as possible :f_drink:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I did a search for "Poker room rake comparison"
I was surprising how different the results were.
Some sites (understandably) only listed affiliated poker rooms.

I suggest that you do the research yourself.
For each site you are interested in use your favourite search engine to look up the site's official rake table.
To get you started, here are a few I had bookmarked:
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/rake/
https://en.ggpoker.com/poker-games/texas-holdem/
https://www.888poker.com/poker-software/limits-and-rake/

The most useful search terms seem to be:
xxx rake structure
or
xxx rake table
where xxx is the name of the poker room

Enjoy...


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