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Zoom 6Max, KQs on BTN, will you flat a 4bet IP?

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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

The reg is 24/19/af1.1 3B:12 125 hands

What would you do here?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 200.74 BB
SB: 96.2 BB
BB: 108.02 BB
UTG: 267.68 BB
MP: 140.66 BB
CO: 101.92 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ K♥

fold, MP raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, MP raises to 25 BB, fold

MP wins 19.5 BB

Yes, I folded but I wanna hear opinions.

This is a call for me at +150BBESS.


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kfcsekirata
Joined: 01.11.2013

You are deep and you are in position so i think you could at least see the flop


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Tyrion88
Joined: 21.06.2007

I would have called also.


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Timmaywin
Joined: 23.02.2010

3-betting big (3.6x) and than folding seems like a leak. Either 3bet smaller-fold or 3bet-call with your sizing.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by Timmaywin
3-betting big (3.6x) and than folding seems like a leak. Either 3bet smaller-fold or 3bet-call with your sizing.

Thanks. I think I will just use the pot button next time which should make the size a bit smaller than 9BB.


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onetimebigtime
Joined: 06.05.2020

I will be incline to call with the intention of hitting a straight, royal flush(for good measure haha), flush or minimum 2 pair of KQ because we are 140bb deep and we are in position plus the 4-bet is not more than 3x our 3-bet.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Thanks guys. It's actually very simple for me. He is 10BB short for me make the call but may be I will consider it next time.


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onetimebigtime
Joined: 06.05.2020

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Thanks guys. It's actually very simple for me. He is 10BB short for me make the call but may be I will consider it next time.

If you have game plan in calling a raise, then just follow your game plan.

Normally, I'm calling 3-bet if I have a hand that want to speculate if they have at least x10 of the blinds I'm still calling for. How about you?


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by onetimebigtime

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Thanks guys. It's actually very simple for me. He is 10BB short for me make the call but may be I will consider it next time.

If you have game plan in calling a raise, then just follow your game plan.

Normally, I'm calling 3-bet if I have a hand that want to speculate if they have at least x10 of the blinds I'm still calling for. How about you?

That's interesting way of looking at it. I actually don't know how I make these decisions. I think I tend to look at each situation differently.


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

All depends on the range of villain.
Does he 4bet bluff Ax and/or suited connectors?

If not.. you have to flop really lucky to beat him and get money. Best you can hope for is having a low board with him having pockets and hitting your flush on the river?

All high boards are a problem. Unless you make a straight on a non paired board..

I would prefer a hand like 78s over this one to call with.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by marcvz
All high boards are a problem. Unless you make a straight on a non paired board..

I would prefer a hand like 78s over this one to call with.

Yes, the problem with this hand is that while calling for flush and straight in mind is well meaning, you might get suckered into being dominated. So, you almost want to call with something like 98s/87s/64s instead.


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Yes, the problem with this hand is that while calling for flush and straight in mind is well meaning, you might get suckered into being dominated. So, you almost want to call with something like 98s/87s/64s instead.

Exactly my thought.
I keep KQs in my calling range in position vs MP.
3bet it from the blinds against cutoff and btn.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by marcvz
Exactly my thought.
I keep KQs in my calling range in position vs MP.
3bet it from the blinds against cutoff and btn.

Yes, I think I prefer flat here on BTN with KQs and 3bet KQo on BTN vs HJ/CO instead.

This play here with KQs in OP is totally random but I'm not sure if I like it THAT much.


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onetimebigtime
Joined: 06.05.2020

Originally posted by marcvz

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Yes, the problem with this hand is that while calling for flush and straight in mind is well meaning, you might get suckered into being dominated. So, you almost want to call with something like 98s/87s/64s instead.

Exactly my thought.
I keep KQs in my calling range in position vs MP.
3bet it from the blinds against cutoff and btn.

Nice strategy


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