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AQ, 3bet pot, oop, TPTK

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Tyrion88
Joined: 21.06.2007

Hi guys,

i have seen this guy 3betting befor. Like two time or so. I think he is not the super nit.

My question is: Do I have to find a fold somewhere? Or is the call down ok?


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sinkoat
Joined: 12.11.2010

Hi,

Pre: I would consider 4bet/fold, if he is not nitty. Or I would simply fold to 3bet, but definitely wouldn't call without info. The point is, that AQ is not really good. Specially OOP and not as preflop aggressor. If you don't find anything in flop, you could just pretty much c/f. If you find something, you will rarely know, whether you are ahead, or not.

Flop: As played c/c is fine. But if he cbets turn, I would give up.
Without stats and OOP is really hard to play here this hand. And if he has AT or AK, you are behind, which he could have. TT is ahead of you too. I don't see here JJ-KK double or triple barreling, specially not Vs A high board.

Turn: If you call here, you are pretty much committed, so you can call river aswell.

I'm curious about others opinions aswell.


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CharlotteD
Joined: 04.02.2013

Sinkoat is completely right I believe.
Calling the 3 bet oop will get you in all sorts of trouble postflop. The easiest way to play it, is just folding it vs the 3bet.
The 4bet fold option is not even necessary at 2nl I think. You would 4bet then to keep your 4bet range wider wich makes it harder for villain to play against your range if you 4bet hands. But at 2nl that shoulnt be much of a concern.


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Tyrion88
Joined: 21.06.2007

Thank you all.
I just realised that tagged it wrong. It was actually NL5. But it should not make any differences.


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sinkoat
Joined: 12.11.2010

Originally posted by CharlotteD
Sinkoat is completely right I believe.
Calling the 3 bet oop will get you in all sorts of trouble postflop. The easiest way to play it, is just folding it vs the 3bet.
The 4bet fold option is not even necessary at 2nl I think. You would 4bet then to keep your 4bet range wider wich makes it harder for villain to play against your range if you 4bet hands. But at 2nl that shoulnt be much of a concern.

Well, 4bet/fold I would only do if villain has 10+ 3bet% over a significant amount of hand.


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sinkoat
Joined: 12.11.2010

And you are welcome. Btw, I'm playing zoom, and I have experiences about 10+ 3bet% in NL5.


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pisiattu
Joined: 01.04.2010

Preflop imho is ok with AQ, 4bet or fold was a move of 2012, call vs 3bet and play poker.

When you fold you lost 300 bb, if you with call of all your range make better than - 300 is ok.

Without info is sick turn he pot and you have an hearth, for mdf you can't fold AQ, in exploit you can


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Taroxus
Joined: 27.11.2018

Either fold turn or get it in. You'll otherwise end up in super strange river spots.

I'd just get it in. We have one of our strongest hands here. There are plenty of possible draws here. Not impossible for the guy to have a worse A or AQ either.

I'm ok folding pre out of position, as we'll have a lot of stronger hands here & we should be opening tight. That said, 4 bet folding is ok too & calling seems fine, no idea about population tendencies here. But folding, even though probably worse in win rate, could be a fine standard play. Especially if you're going to be confused postflop.


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