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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

It is tough to loose 1/2 stack like this.
I need a sanity check, if I played this well or not.

I think everything is pretty standard.
Flop and turn I have to bet for protection and value.
Can't call a shove on the turn, though, can I. Only hands I beat is 99 and some flush draws, maybe rarely T9o.

I think it is all good. Maybe bet sizes need small adjustments, I am not sure about that.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 146.5 BB
UTG: 35.5 BB
MP: 98 BB
CO: 29 BB
BTN: 65 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♥ T♠

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, MP calls 11 BB, fold

Flop: (32 BB, 2 players) 5♦ 7♦ 7♥
Hero bets 9.5 BB, MP calls 9.5 BB

Turn: (51 BB, 2 players) 8♥
Hero bets 25 BB, MP raises to 74.5 BB and is all-in, fold,


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Sometimes you play a hand correctly and still lose.
After your turn bet, you have half your stack in the middle, as you point out.
I can't honestly say what I would do here.
I lean toward a call.
Equilab puts it like so:

Board: 5♦7♦7♥ 8♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP3    36.07%  36.07%   0.00% { JJ+, 99, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }
SB     63.93%  63.93%   0.00% { TT }

I think you could argue my chosen range is too wide for MP here, but even so you now must put in 50-odd BB and are getting decent odds.
Oh -- you also have two outs.

I'd love to hear what the experts think though...


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I think i lean towards a call as well i don't think villain is shoving with AJo KQo but could have KQs AKs AQs AJs with the heart or diamond flush draw.Maybe give them 50% QQ+ and 50% 99 with 76s 88 and we have 40% equity it's not a great spot but we only need like 30% equity.

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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

@VorpalF2F @RedsYNWA that makes a lot of sense.

Here is what I think and I acknowledge that I could be mistaken.
I am not sure if the generell population on NL2 is capable of frequently semi-bluffing with flush draws in spots like this. I have an intuition that villain has a strong value hand. I give raises on the turn tons of credit and I think it might be ok to deviate from the theoretically optimal play and to make an exploitive fold here? (Even though that makes me exploitable)
If I was playing vs a player that I know is really strong, I agree that a call is probably +EV here.

Nevertheless I am open to changing my mind about this.


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I don't think folding is a huge mistake or anything as i'm not sure people are exploiting you that often in these spots especially in the lower end of the micros.So in very marginal spots i think giving villain the benefit of the doubt is probably ok they might have some bluffs but are likely under bluffing and heavily weighted to value.


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Originally posted by monteCarlol
@VorpalF2F @RedsYNWA that makes a lot of sense.

Here is what I think and I acknowledge that I could be mistaken.
I am not sure if the generell population on NL2 is capable of frequently semi-bluffing with flush draws in spots like this. I have an intuition that villain has a strong value hand. I give raises on the turn tons of credit and I think it might be ok to deviate from the theoretically optimal play and to make an exploitive fold here? (Even though that makes me exploitable)
If I was playing vs a player that I know is really strong, I agree that a call is probably +EV here.

Nevertheless I am open to changing my mind about this.

All correct IMO.
Unless strong read on Villain, and by this I mean you already saw him bluff raising turn on an action board (there are 2 FD, paired board and a few straights are already possible), this is a fold, end of story.

I only have 10.5k hands in NL2, but here is the ONLY time I called a CR turn and saw showdown, feel free to make your own conclusions:

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.02(BB)
SB ($1.50) [VPIP: 41.8% | PFR: 12.7% | AGG: 34.3% | Hands: 56]
BB ($1.44) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 36.7% | Flop Agg: 46.4% | Turn Agg: 26.3% | River Agg: 30.8% | 3-Bet: 4.9% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 18.2% | Hands: 185]
CO ($3.94) [VPIP: 31.5% | PFR: 16.1% | AGG: 27.8% | Hands: 146]
HERO ($2.48) [VPIP: 20.4% | PFR: 16.3% | AGG: 31.4% | Flop Agg: 34.6% | Turn Agg: 29.8% | River Agg: 25.8% | 3-Bet: 6.4% | 4-Bet: 7.6% | Hands: 10511]

Dealt to Hero: Q♠ Q♣

CO Folds, HERO Raises To $0.07, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.05

Hero SPR on Flop: [9.13 effective]
Flop ($0.15): 9♠ J♦ J♣
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.08 (Rem. Stack: $2.33), BB Calls $0.08 (Rem. Stack: $1.29)

Turn ($0.31): 9♠ J♦ J♣ 9♥
BB Checks, HERO Bets $0.20 (Rem. Stack: $2.13), BB Raises To $0.50 (Rem. Stack: $0.79), HERO Calls $0.30 (Rem. Stack: $1.83)

River ($1.31): 9♠ J♦ J♣ 9♥ 9♣
BB Bets $0.79 (allin), HERO Calls $0.79 (Rem. Stack: $1.04)


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