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Can we as players do anything to protect from RTA?

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bigdog63
Joined: 24.10.2011

Is there anything we can do to protect ourselves from opponents using RTA (real time assistance)?
It took me less than 1 minute to find this impressive demonstration of a forbidden tool, which may be undetectable when running client or tool in a virtual machine

Are tournament play or non-NL games the only options left?


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praios
Joined: 30.07.2006

You cannot protect yourself.
solvers are also available for plo.
You can also solve for tourneys.


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Originally posted by bigdog63
Are tournament play and non-NL games the only options left?

Yes.
There is nothing exciting about "adjusting your CBet frequency by 2%" etc anyway.


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I thought this software was detectable by sites.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
I thought this software was detectable by sites.

not if it is running on a separate computer.


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
I thought this software was detectable by sites.

not if it is running on a separate computer.

Then how can it retrieve the hand history to give live information ? building a hand history tree in a solver manually on a seperate computer during play would be close to impossible it has to be almost instant to be of any real use.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

An agent would run on the poker computer that would collect the information and pass it to the solver computer.
It would be next to impossible for poker site software to detect such an agent, since it could change it's name and characteristics periodically.

Certain "polymorphic" viruses behave this way https://www.techopedia.com/definition/4055/polymorphic-virus

In the past, bot detectors would record where on a button the click occurred, and if a "player" clicked on the same spot repeatedly, it was flagged for scrutiny.
Bots began to move their clicks around.
Then timing came in to play.

I presume that such an agent would be detectable, similar to the way in which the viruses eventually became detectable.

Since OP asked "Can we as players do anything to protect from RTA?" the question is still open.
Taking notes of strange behaviour might work.

Years ago a Double-or-Nothing collusion ring was exposed that way.
I only heard about it because I got a refund from PartyPoker for some tournaments.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

poker is dead, all regs should quit :f_frown:


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praios
Joined: 30.07.2006

Made a video regarding this topic


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