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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Pre: I don't necessarily think that SB would squeeze super light here. And I'd fold if MP folded, too. But since MP called the odds are good, I have position and the hand plays well multi-way, I call. Any objections?

Flop: I wouldn't stab here, I don't think I have the fold equity, do I?

Turn: Odds are too good, to fold.

Do you see any flaws?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 252 BB
SB: 101.5 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 83.5 BB
MP: 101 BB
CO: 40 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♣ Q♣

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, SB raises to 14.5 BB, fold, MP calls 11.5 BB, Hero calls 11.5 BB

Flop: (44.5 BB, 3 players) T♣ 9♠ T♠
SB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: (44.5 BB, 3 players) A♥
SB bets 14 BB, MP calls 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

River: (86.5 BB, 3 players) 6♠
SB checks, MP bets 42 BB, fold, SB calls 42 BB


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

flop and turn seem OK
Fold OTR is OK

I'm curious to hear whether or not this is a fold pre...

Anybody for a bluff 4Bet here?


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onetimebigtime
Joined: 06.05.2020

i will just 3-bet pre-flop

if i just call 3-bet, i will play it the same way as yours

gg


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Any info on villains would be nice, but a 3bet bluff could be a idea against a decent player.

A potential 4bet after your flat call and the 3bet of SB and over call of MP is really tricky. It's a really strong move, but on NL2 this could end horrible against weaker players. You basicly say you have a slow played hand like QQ+ or something and you get decent odds if you face a jam with in mind you need to make it around 40bb against 2 other players.

Post-flop is fine for sure.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

I am currently implementing W34z3l's pre-flop strategies. And in his charts this is a 100% cold-call.
Reason for cold-calling:
- Having position favors a high SPR
- Good multi-way playability of speculative hands
- The later the position the wider the cold-calling range

All applies to QJs.

However, I would agree that this is an edge case. QJs as other higher suited combos play well with a high and a low SPR. So mixing cc and 3bet for sure is reasonable.


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