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KK in a 4bet Pot, turn decision!

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greatpk
Joined: 04.05.2016

Hello everyone!
So I just had a pretty interesting hand in NL5, so would appreciate some feedback.
So I open 3x from CO pre flop with KK, BTN is a solid Reg and 3bets(think he have a balanced 3bet range that includes bluffs as well), I decide to 4bet (not sure if im having the correct sizing here for 4bet) and he calls. Flop was a pretty standard play I check, he bets 1/3 pot and I call. So now I check turn again, and he shoves it for around 60BB. Here's my thinking process, I automatically remove AA from his range, as Aces would of 5bet preflop and wouldn't play so agressive on paired board. I also don't believe he has AQ here (perhaps only AQ suited) but even if he had AQ, it doesn't make sense to shove the turn here. Same goes with QQ, Queens are very unlikely to shove turn for nearly a pot sized bet as well. So only hand that makes any sense here is 10 10 (but again not too much, as he shouldn't be calling 10's to 4bet preflop and wouldn't bet flop on Q 6 Q). The hand that makes most of sense to me is AK that's bluffing the turn as Aces and KK have tough time calling the turn on this board.
Let me know if call here is a mistake and why!

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $2.49 (50 bb)
MP: $10.03 (201 bb)
CO (Hero): $9.06 (181 bb)
BU: $5.11 (102 bb)
SB: $5.00 (100 bb)
BB: $16.81 (336 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with K K
UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN 3-bets to $0.57, 3 players fold, Hero 4-bets to $1.20, BTN calls $0.63

Flop: ($2.52) Q 6 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.73, Hero calls $0.73

Turn: ($3.98) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.18 (all-in), Hero calls $3.18

River: ($10.34) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.34 (Rake: $0.43)

Showdown:
BU shows A K (two pair, Queens and Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

CO (Hero) shows K K (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) wins $9.91


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

I think this is a standard check call check call, if he has QX then he might sometimes play the same way id put it down to variance, hes probably going to shove off there with tons of hands trying to push you off AK, you played this hand well.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

The 4bet sizing could be more out of position. I would make it around $1,50-$1,60 in total.
I wouldn't mind to make a Cbet on a dry board as well for value. If you check like now I would play it the same. if villain has trips it's to bad.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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greatpk
Joined: 04.05.2016

Yeah decision made at this spot seems to be always made by the reads of your opponent I believe. However I disagree with leading with a Cbet on this board as SDK mentioned above, as I would force his bluffs to fold and he would only continue with better hands that beats me if I lead into him, by checking I don't give up any value and let him make bluffs in this spot. Im pretty sure If I would lead with a cbet I would force him to fold anything that's not AA or better.


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pokerboy198229
Joined: 20.08.2011

Originally posted by greatpk
Yeah decision made at this spot seems to be always made by the reads of your opponent I believe. However I disagree with leading with a Cbet on this board as SDK mentioned above, as I would force his bluffs to fold and he would only continue with better hands that beats me if I lead into him, by checking I don't give up any value and let him make bluffs in this spot. Im pretty sure If I would lead with a cbet I would force him to fold anything that's not AA or better.

What do you think about JJ or 99? It coulbe in his range when he 3bets calling 4bet. So I would c-bet for value flop 1/3 of the pot and check call all other streets.


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