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MotorcycleBoy25
Joined: 04.10.2011

PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

MP+1: $19.04 (76.2 bb)
MP+2: $25.00 (100 bb)
CO: $22.86 (91.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $28.50 (114 bb)
SB: $24.75 (99 bb)
BB: $44.85 (179.4 bb)
UTG: $7.26 (29 bb)
UTG+1: $26.02 (104.1 bb)
MP: $41.35 (165.4 bb)

SB posts $0.10, BB posts $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 8♣: A♣:
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75, MP+1 calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.35, 3 players) 3♠: 9♣: A♥:
UTG checks, MP+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.35, 3 players) K♣:
UTG checks, MP+1 bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, UTG raises to $6.26 and is all-in, MP+1 calls $5.51, Hero calls $5.51

River: ($22.13, 3 players) A♦:
MP+1 bets $11.78 and is all-in, Hero calls $11.78

Results: $45.69 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 3♠: 9♣: A♥: K♣: A♦:

This check/raise from turn is very strange, but agressor is very weak player (83/2) and I thing, that I cant fold with TP and nut FD.

Villain z MP is fish and limping about 26 % of his range. His WTSD is 32 proc., so he is calling station, so I think, that he has a lot of low Ax in his range. He is pretty agressive on river AFq 52.

Do you think, that I should play this in different way?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by MotorcycleBoy25
Do you think, that I should play this in different way?

Hi MotorcycleBoy25,
You might bet the flop.
As the pre-flop aggressor, you can get value from TT-KK.

I can understand the check though, since your A isn't the best.

Cheers,
VS


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

I'd bet the flop. It's not the worst spot to check back as you've got the backdoor covered but vs 2 opponents just bet 1/3, it's alot worse giving a free card to 2 opponents. But this hand is definately not the worst candidate for a x back.

You could raise the turn. I don't mind the flat.
When raised by the fish, it's fine to call vs him (maybe) but when the other guy flats it's close. it's an x2 overbet and now a dead pot when you flat. You're hoping to hit otherwise your going be most likely be behind of regs calling range here.
So really it's a pot odds call.
you put 5$ to win 22$. 4/1ish. 25%. 9 outs. 18%. plus implied for 11$ potentially and maybe some % you could win at showdown if it check/check river.
So turn call is not actually that bad.

River.
yeah it's whatever. Just checked the stack sizes, villian not full stack. You should probably be stacking here. Can have worse Ax.
Don't feel too bad when he shows better Ax. He didn't 3b pre so a9a10 your losing too only most likely.


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dragonste
Joined: 28.06.2010

As a 82/2 he has all his Ax in his limp range. So you are losing to half and winning half of his range with tp.
I don't like the check on the flop. What is your reason for it?
By checking yeah you have pot control but you raised pre, you've hit to vs two very weak players that limp, your hit the best hand you could have. You want two streets of value from this. If he raises on flop or turn then put the brakes on, tp middle kicker bet an don't give a free card, free cards means people can realise their equity without paying for it.
You bet flop you get calls from all 9x hands, 82vpip even 3x hands you would be getting value from.

On the turn there is a raise in a multiway pot I'm dropping my tp as fast as I can, but the FD? it just comes down to pot odds then and it doesn't matter about player type? ranges? Or anything its just a math equation then.
Even if he has a set your flush will be the nuts so calculate an make the best mathematical decision.


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