888 Bankroll recovery

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

What a Difference Culture Makes!

On the bubble to the 4th tier above mincash, I limped UTG fully expecting a jam from a shorter stack which I would gladly call.
As it turns out though, this is a $300 freeroll, and isn't part of the usual 888 freeroll daily routine.
This one is much much slower, and is generally populated by thinking players.

Pacific Poker - 1000/2000 Ante 200 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 49,750
MP+1: 79,352
CO: 48,267
BTN: 50,514
SB: 26,378
BB: 27,460
Hero (UTG): 59,015
UTG+1: 93,445

8 players post ante of 200, SB posts SB 1,000, BB posts BB 2,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 4,600) Hero has T♠:A♠:

Hero calls 2,000, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 2,000, fold, SB calls 1,000, BB checks

Flop: (9,600, 4 players) J♠:2♦:7♦:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (9,600, 4 players) 9♦:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

River: (9,600, 4 players) 5♣:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

SB shows 4♦:K♥: (High Card, King)
(Pre 23%, Flop 18%, Turn 13%)
BB mucks 8♦:Q♠: (High Card, Queen)
(Pre 18%, Flop 20%, Turn 28%)
Hero shows T♠:A♠: (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 41%, Flop 53%, Turn 55%)
CO mucks Q♥:6♥: (High Card, Queen)
(Pre 17%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins 9,600

I *never* expected A-high could ever take a pot multi-way

It looks like standard open.
Open raise has almost always better EV than limp. You can check here.

Originally posted by Harrier88
Amazing job! ♠_drink:

How much was that, like $20?

Thanks!
33.48
Just checked -- it isn't the first time I won a freeroll -- not surprisingly I don't remember the other one
NARF
The other one was in August of last year, and was for 42.00
It was the same tournament as this one only that time there were only 243 runners.
I even posted about it https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3171089#post3171089

But this one puts me over $500, so that is super sweet.
Let's see, that's 10 BI at NL 50 -- think I should take a shot?

Originally posted by Laci24
It looks like standard open.
Open raise has almost always better EV than limp. You can check here.

Thanks!
I followed that link, and not surprisingly I already had an account there -- I just hadn't played NLHE tournaments for so long I just hadn't used it.

This is what it showed:
https://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#StvzJV

Pretty marginal for a shove.
However, considering what the other players held, and what their behaviour was the previous few times I had shoved it may have been worthwhile.
I only posted the hand because it is in very sharp contrast to the usual 888 freeroll behaviour, where if one player shoves, several others shove also.

I really appreciate that you reminded me of this site.

All the best,
VS

But, since it is a freeroll, only $0.26 -- but it goes in the kitty just like the rest...
Bankroll now $517.03

What I expect to be my bust-out hand turned out to be the game-saver...
Pacific Poker - 40000/80000 Ante 8000 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 66,830
MP: 50,080
MP+1: 402,151
MP+2: 140,084
CO: 276,136
Hero (BTN): 35,060
SB: 32,020
BB: 5,078
UTG: 79,550

8 players post ante of 8,000, BB posts ante 5,078 and is all-in, SB posts SB 24,020

Pre Flop: (pot: 93,098) Hero has 9♥:9♣:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 27,060 and is all-in

Flop: (117,118, 3 players) 9♦:7♣:9♠:

Turn: (117,118, 3 players) 6♠:

River: (117,118, 3 players) K♣:

Hero shows 9♥:9♣: (Four of a Kind, Nines)

Main Pot [45,702]: (Pre 62%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
Side Pot#1 [71,416]: (Pre 87%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)

SB shows 7♦:2♠: (Two Pair, Nines and Sevens)

Main Pot [45,702]: (Pre 12%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [71,416]: (Pre 13%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)

BB shows 3♣:Q♥: (One Pair, Nines)

Main Pot [45,702]: (Pre 26%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins 45,702
Hero wins 71,416

but...

Pacific Poker - 75/150 Ante 15 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 1,856
BTN: 2,643
SB: 6,179
BB: 9,925
UTG: 2,884
UTG+1: 6,716
MP: 2,813
MP+1: 215
Hero (MP+2): 8,794

9 players post ante of 15, SB posts SB 75, BB posts BB 150

Pre Flop: (pot: 360) Hero has 8♣:A♣:

fold, UTG+1 calls 150, fold, MP+1 raises to 200 and is all-in, Hero calls 200, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 50, UTG+1 calls 50

Flop: (1,010, 4 players) A♥:8♥:6♥:
BB checks, UTG+1 bets 966, Hero raises to 8,579 and is all-in, BB calls 8,579, UTG+1 calls 5,535 and is all-in

Turn: (24,669, 4 players) A♦:

River: (24,669, 4 players) 3♣:

BB shows J♥:7♦: (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [1,010]: (Pre 15%, Flop 36%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#1 [19,503]: (Pre 33%, Flop 38%, Turn 0%)
Side Pot#2 [4,156]: (Pre 35%, Flop 40%, Turn 0%)

UTG+1 shows 6♦:A♠: (Full House, Aces full of Sixes)

Main Pot [1,010]: (Pre 16%, Flop 10%, Turn 3%)
Side Pot#1 [19,503]: (Pre 22%, Flop 10%, Turn 3%)

MP+1 shows Q♦:J♣: (One Pair, Aces)

Main Pot [1,010]: (Pre 34%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)

Hero shows 8♣:A♣: (Full House, Aces full of Eights)

Main Pot [1,010]: (Pre 35%, Flop 52%, Turn 98%)
Side Pot#1 [19,503]: (Pre 45%, Flop 53%, Turn 98%)
Side Pot#2 [4,156]: (Pre 65%, Flop 60%, Turn 100%)

Hero wins 1,010
Hero wins 19,503
Hero wins 4,156

Just a freeroll though.
From my lovely $517 bankroll I've been slapped back 476

but it has happened before...

Current graph...

Played 6 of 'em yesterday, cashed 5.
Nothing special though.

888 is on hold for a few days while I concentrate on MicroMillions...

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Freeroll Frenzy

Played 6 of 'em yesterday, cashed 5.
Nothing special though.

888 is on hold for a few days while I concentrate on MicroMillions...

Cashed 5 out of 6 nothing special ? pretty special if you ask me. gl with the micromillions.

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
Cashed 5 out of 6 nothing special ? pretty special if you ask me. gl with the micromillions.

Thanks RedsYNWA -- I just meant that nothing more than min-cashes

To cash these freerolls on 888 you just need to double up once early on, then just wait for the opportunity to pounce.
People open-shove the strangest things, so the trick is to not get tricked into doing the same.
Bide your time.

A lot of these are "desperation equity" too.
I seem to frequently win with one or two big blinds left near the bubble, which carries me into the money, then I get a really good hand and it loses.

Finished 3rd of 731 in the $300 Saturday Freeroll for $24.60

Bankroll now at 507.56

I've played very little on 888 since my last post -- just a few freerolls and some PLO8 5
A few decent cashes, and two profitable PLO8 cash sessions, so BR is now at $512.76

Not a lot bigger than the old one -- but still...

BR now at $517.10

I took a 1-BI loss at PLO8 10 and a 6-BI loss at PLO5

Later in the day gained back over 1 BI at PLO8 5, and clawed a bit back in Freerolls...
Current BR -- 484.83

In spite of a few good hands, I got devastated again today

I kept getting da nuts (which got counterfeited) and with decent re-draws (which got outdrawn)
Looking at this graph, it appears I was in 33% of hands, but clearly that's too many.

The Giraffe:

Not all bad though...
A few more of these, and we would have been quite all right
Pacific Poker - $0.05 PL Hi/Lo - Omaha Hi/Lo - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $7.16
SB: $1.15
BB: $5.00
UTG: $5.23
Hero (CO): $10.11

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 4♣:T♠:J♦:A♠:

fold, Hero raises to $0.12, fold, SB calls $0.10, BB raises to $0.48, Hero calls $0.36, SB calls $0.36

Flop: ($1.44, 3 players) 4♠:7♠:J♠:
SB checks, BB bets $1.44, Hero calls $1.44, fold

Turn: ($4.32, 2 players) Q♣:
BB bets $3.08 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.08

River: ($10.48, 2 players) 2♦:

BB shows 3♠:K♠:Q♥:T♥: (Flush, King High)
(Pre 36%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows 4♣:T♠:J♦:A♠: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 64%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $9.96
Rake paid $0.52

The Game Saver
In this hand, we were on the bubble, and I was in the 3rd-last spot, so it's all or nothing -- but you can't be folding hands this strong
PokerStars, $2.94 + $0.36 - Single Draw 2-7 No Limit - 300/600 (150 ante) - 6 players
Replay this hand on CardsChat

UTG: 16,755 (28 bb)
MP: 41,692 (69 bb)
CO: 35,832 (60 bb)
BU: 5,967 (10 bb)
SB (Hero): 910 (2 bb)
BB: 28,217 (47 bb)

Deal: (1,800) Hero is SB with 8♣:5♦:3♠:6♥:4♠:
UTG raises to 1,200, 1 fold, CO calls 1,200, 1 fold, Hero calls 460 (all-in), 1 fold

Draw One: (4,660) 8♣:5♦:3♠:6♥:4♠: (3 players, 1 all-in)
SB (Hero) stands pat, UTG draws 1, CO stands pat
UTG checks, CO checks

Total pot: 4,660

Showdown:
UTG shows 7♥:5♠:2♣:4♥:T♠: (T-7-5-4-2)
SB (Hero) shows 8♣:5♦:3♠:6♥:4♠: (8-6-5-4-3)
CO mucks 7♠:5♣:6♣:8♥:T♣: (T-8-7-6-5)
UTG wins 880
SB (Hero) wins 3,780

I played for the first time in 10 days on 888 and came away with 8 cents out of 3 tournaments.
There's one left to play, but it isn't one I normally play so not expecting much

OK back at it on 888 today -- no freeroll lolly, but did pick up a buck or so playing PLO8 10

(slightly) better low, and weak kicker but still won w/ a pair of acies...
Pacific Poker - $0.10 PL Hi/Lo - Omaha Hi/Lo - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $14.54
UTG+1: $1.39
MP: $19.67
MP+1: $21.65
CO: $13.08
Hero (BTN): $10.00
SB: $4.40
BB: $8.79

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 2♠:6♥:J♣:A♦:

UTG raises to $0.35, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, fold

Flop: ($1.15, 3 players) T♥:K♠:A♣:
fold, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.15, 2 players) 7♥:
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.15, 2 players) 5♠:
UTG checks, Hero checks

UTG shows 3♣:8♦:A♥:9♣: (High: One Pair, Aces, Low: 8753A)
(Pre 47%, Flop 29%, Turn 34%)
Hero shows 2♠:6♥:J♣:A♦: (High: One Pair, Aces, Low: 7652A)
(Pre 53%, Flop 71%, Turn 66%)
Hero wins $0.55
Rake paid $0.05
Hero wins $0.55

Small freeroll cash, and small PLO8 5 win

BR currently 458.61
We're going to start adding some MTTs to our playlist.
We'll look for one every M, Th & F to play on stream.

On stream today, I mentioned that I cash about 3 out of every 5 freerolls.
It turns out that this is not correct -- it is only 24.23%

Here is the freeroll results since I started the challenge:

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
We'll look for one every M, Th & F to play on stream.

Ill look for a stream every M, Th & F , looks like your going along quite nicely.

Originally posted by RedsYNWA

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
We'll look for one every M, Th & F to play on stream.

Ill look for a stream every M, Th & F , looks like your going along quite nicely.
Thanks!
We played in a $5000 freeroll today, and collected another 4 bucks for nothing. ROI is infinite.
Cashed in another for 10 cents or so as well.

Of all the rooms I've ever played in, 888 has the best line-up of freerolls.
Well, maybe PokerStars -- in the early days, every hour or so was a different freeroll for a particular game -- stud, 5-card draw, 2-7 triple draw, badugi and so on.
Those freerolls are pretty much what got me started on the "non-hold'em" games.

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by RedsYNWA

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
We'll look for one every M, Th & F to play on stream.

Ill look for a stream every M, Th & F , looks like your going along quite nicely.
Thanks!
We played in a $5000 freeroll today, and collected another 4 bucks for nothing. ROI is infinite.
Cashed in another for 10 cents or so as well.

Of all the rooms I've ever played in, 888 has the best line-up of freerolls.
Well, maybe PokerStars -- in the early days, every hour or so was a different freeroll for a particular game -- stud, 5-card draw, 2-7 triple draw, badugi and so on.
Those freerolls are pretty much what got me started on the "non-hold'em" games.

That's where my love of the game began with freerolls on Full Tilt poker years ago they had their own running every hour and then you had forums running private freerolls. Full Tilt also ran a daily freeroll that you could buy in for 500k play money chips which i always thought was a great idea for a freeroll.