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Bfam91
Joined: 20.08.2021

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB
BTN: 100 BB
SB: 198.5 BB
Hero (BB): 153 BB
UTG: 193 BB
UTG+1: 110.5 BB
MP: 95.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has 4♣ 9♦

fold, fold, fold, CO checks, fold, fold, Hero checks

Flop: (3 BB, 2 players) 7♠ A♥ 4♠
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (3 BB, 2 players) 4♥
Hero bets 3 BB, CO raises to 12 BB, Hero raises to 25.5 BB, CO calls 13.5 BB

River: (54 BB, 2 players) 2♥
Hero bets 26 BB, CO raises to 73 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 47 BB

CO shows Q♥ 5♦ (One Pair, Fours)
(Pre 64%, Flop 28%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows 4♣ 9♦ (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 36%, Flop 72%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 193 BB

i looked my hands trough from yesterday sessions and even tho i won this hand i feel like i should have folded on the river
what do you guys think ?

i have looked it trough many times and i feel like i just got lucky that i called out his bluff and the right play would have been a fold on river
since most of the time i have called a raise on river in nl2 they have the nuts and dont bluff a lot :f_grin:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

A couple of observations:

Originally posted by Bfam91
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, COposts penalty blind 1.5 BB

When a player posts a blind out of turn, it usually is a good indicator of someone who hasn't a clue -- not always, but usually.

It is really hard to put a player on a range on their very first hand, but you have a solid hand, and I'm never folding this river. I might even re-raise the turn all-in myself.

One thing that will help is to put the results in a spoiler.
That way, members can see the action up to the point in question, but aren't influenced by the outcome.
You could even leave the results part out entirely, and report them after the discussion.


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Ramble
Joined: 17.11.2008

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
You could even leave the results part out entirely, and report them after the discussion.

This is the way.

It's not a river card you want to see, but after he re-raises all-in you're getting better than 3:1 odds to call and I think you are ahead more often than that the way this was played.


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Bfam91
Joined: 20.08.2021

how do i put it in a spoiler ? :) ..

my thought process if i remember correctly was something like

he raises on turn so he might have the ace and want more money in the pot and thinking my bet is a bluff
but that is good for me if he have 1 pair ace since he might stick arround all the way and i can make the pot bigger
or he might have the flush draw with hearts now and its still fine with me because he have what . arround 20% chance of hitting it ?
so he would probably call a raise but an all in would scare him away from the last betting round

but i can see that if he calls my reraise he would probably also call an all in in most cases so that would be better play :f_thumbsup:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Bfam91
how do i put it in a spoiler ? :) ..

In Pokertracker,

If you already have text you want to put in a spoiler, highlight it, then click the 3rd button from the right on the post's toolbar -- it looks like [=]


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Bfam91
Joined: 20.08.2021

awesome ty i try to remember that for future hands :)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely bet 2bb on the turn and as played I would 3bet a lot bigger.
You can easy make it 35bb in total and call a shove.

River seems well played. Tough to fold trips and backdoor flush seems unlikely, but it's always possible.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Bfam91
Joined: 20.08.2021

yea it was the flush i think that in most time they bet like that my experience is that they have it :) .

but then again i got 16k poker hands so it aint much experience :f_biggrin:


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