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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

The villain is 17/12/af2.4, ATTSTL16, 563 hands

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 61.68 BB
SB: 100 BB
Hero (BB): 116.16 BB
UTG: 107.6 BB
MP: 111.52 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7♦ 6♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) Q♦ 9♦ J♦
SB bets 1.72 BB, Hero raises to 14.72 BB, SB raises to 97 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 82.28 BB

Thoughts?


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Seems pretty standard. Dont be result oriented.

I agree with your postflop play. Baby flushes must be played aggressively on the flop/turn most of the time. They are very vulnurable to a strong flushdraws and should be played fast. You crush big part of his stack off range. Sets, two pair hand, strong combo draws. You are favorite against them.

Well played =)

P.S. You could consider 3bet preflop. But it's optional and i dont recommend doing it without proper information


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Not sure why you raising flop more than pot size. I would make it around 6bb in total. The rest seems standard.
Offcourse villain has now a tighter 3bet range I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987
Not sure why you raising flop more than pot size. I would make it around 6bb in total. The rest seems standard.
Offcourse villain has now a tighter 3bet range I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987

It's to put all the money in the pot on flop, and also to protect your hand vs four flush because it's vulnerable.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Vs a 17/12 i'm folding here IDC if that's nitty
his range at very best when we call is sets and Ad X hands which he probably doesn't play like this.
I doubt he'll have weaker flushes ever here, 17/12 stats and in the SB. and its fastfold.
So we need to win 41% after putting 82 to win 200. So plug that into an equi calc
so do we have 41% equity vs his range here. i think not.
I think that's right tell me if i'm wrong here


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by DecMate
Vs a 17/12 i'm folding here IDC if that's nitty
his range at very best when we call is sets and Ad X hands which he probably doesn't play like this.
I doubt he'll have weaker flushes ever here, 17/12 stats and in the SB. and its fastfold.
So we need to win 41% after putting 82 to win 200. So plug that into an equi calc
so do we have 41% equity vs his range here. i think not.
I think that's right tell me if i'm wrong here

Given how the nits like to OP their OP, I did think I had more than 41%, sure.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

First question that came into my mind is if we are overprotecting our hand with that flop raise size? Perhaps not but we want to keep hands in pot that are drawing very thin.

When villain shove sensible range would be high flush for value and A♦: as semibluff. Shoving two pairs, sets or straights make no sense to me.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Originally posted by ghaleon
When villain shove sensible range would be high flush for value and A♦: as semibluff. Shoving two pairs, sets or straights make no sense to me.

Yeah so probably a tighter range then i even gave him. I just think it's a fold here IMO. It's not like we're ever getting exploited here.


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AlcopopDK
Joined: 23.03.2009

Disclaimer: Im a "simple" SNG player - im not used to these deepstacked flop adventures.

Nevertheless - i dont see myself folding a flopped flush bvb.

I get the point of setting turn + river up by raising big. just not sure its the right way to go about it.

A cool line would be: raise smaller flop - overbet "safe" turncards (setting up river) - jam ("safe") river

(overbetting turn is way underestimated in my humble opinion)

/AlcopopDK


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Shoving two pairs, sets or straights make no sense to me.

Why? For example :Kx: T♦: will most likely stack off here

Guys you do realise that to consider folding in this spot we must narrow his range to only flushes. Witch is impossible without proper read. Even with proper read we cant fold in this case. I dont see why sets or top two wont stack off otf? They are also very vulnurable and must be played fast. Also very strong hands. If he has higher flush so be it. It's a cooler.

Not to mention that the board itself blocks some strong flush combos like A♦:Q♦:,
K♦:Q♦:, Q♦:J♦:, A♦:J♦:, J♦:T♦:, Q♦:T♦:


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Because when hero raises big on this flop what is he repping? OP might answer this so I am not on totally different page. Then question is if 3bet shoving top two or sets will show profit versus that range. What hands are going to raise big in heroes shoes and call off versus shove?

Perhaps I am way off but to me hand like :Kx: T♦: is ultimately bluff catcher with some improvement potential. I would go as far as to say I would likely not have flop 3bet range in villain shoes as to me hero flop raise is already fairly polarizing.


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