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PLO50 AA94ss 3bet pot flop line?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

CO limp, BU raise, I 3bet and BU call. We come to flop SPR 3. BU is maniac raising like at least 60% and not folding anything to 3bet. Not really sure if I want to 3bet even if this guy is way out of line as I have 120bb and crappy AAxx?

I think flop is probably best to just pot having A♦: and 4? I think any weaker AAxx I would just x-f. Well nfd blocker has kind of same value as any diamond as I dont expect any fd hand to fold anyway.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Most likely he would shove or fold vs pot bet. What do you think is his shove range?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well hard to say but I think he wont be folding much of any hits. So I assume he continues with any pair, any fd and oesd type hands. Also dry KK is probably not able to fold. Whatever he shoves or calls some of those cant say.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Solver would bet 50% and fold to a raise. Interesting thing is that if you didn't have Ad it would bet-call. That Ad normally is a blocker to his bluff-raise range, and having it means normally his raise is more value heavy. But versus maniac things are very different. That's why I asked your estimation about his calling range.

If his preflop range is 50% minus AA, and on the flop he shoves any pair+, fd or oesd+ it means your pot and call is +EV. He is folding 30% of times and shoves 70% of times but you have 52% equity vs his shoving range. Pot bet on the flop is around +13€ in EV with those assumptions.

Of course in reality he might not shove that wide, but just calls. But as the EV for pot-call versus that wide shove range is +26bb, hard to see that it would turn to -EV even if he calls.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah make sense in solver that A♦: is good for cbetting but not good for stack off versus shove.

This time villain was holding J944 with fd so I were in really bad shape.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Well, it's not about the exact hand but the range...


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Hausierer
Joined: 10.05.2005

Isn't flop on these texture potbet anyway in theory ( 1 J-K + 2 low cards ) to lower the spr and put max pressure or does this only count for 100 BB 3b pots?
I think I read this in JNandez book. I'm just curious :)


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

On Q43r we are supposed to pot huge amount but in two toned it tends to be more of mix between half pot and pot. In general mid strength hands are doing lot of potting with aim to stack off and aim to get max fe. Like my hand with nfd would be half potting.


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Hausierer
Joined: 10.05.2005

Thank you :)


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