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98s on HJ vs BB, SRP, vs a complete unknown, donkathon 3 bettor

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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Some hands are just not solvable, imo.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 200.16 BB
SB: 115.92 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 182.64 BB
Hero (MP): 124.24 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9♣ 8♣

fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (5.36 BB, 2 players) 5♣ 8♥ 3♥
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 3.48 BB, BB calls 2.48 BB

Turn: (12.32 BB, 2 players) 7♣
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 5.8 BB, BB raises to 10.6 BB, Hero calls 4.8 BB

River: (33.52 BB, 2 players) 9♠
BB bets 16 BB, Hero ? ?

Thoughts?


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Infreed42
Joined: 08.07.2007

Confusing. I think even after the minraise on the turn his range can still be wide. on the river he can still be bluffing missed hearts or valuebet worse 2pair. snapcall I think.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Weird line of the villain in this hand, but read less it's tough to fold the river with missed flush draws.

Don't forget to post your own thoughts as well. Than you get better feedback.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987
Weird line of the villain in this hand, but read less it's tough to fold the river with missed flush draws.

Don't forget to post your own thoughts as well. Than you get better feedback.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I feel like I should raise bigger on flop.


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

I would flat the flop. You have decent backdoor equity and at max want 2 streets of value.

Turn, as played, obviously priced in with the draw you have. Tough spot on the river but given the action i would find a fold here. I think calling is reasonable as we have a premium bluff catcher, but villain can show up with anything here and he clearly has interest given the line he took. I could be completely wrong folding though given the pot odds and his range. But after a turn min-click i'm sceptical and would rather find a better spot.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by Infreed42
Confusing. I think even after the minraise on the turn his range can still be wide. on the river he can still be bluffing missed hearts or valuebet worse 2pair. snapcall I think.

It's not a snap call for me but a sigh call.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by DecMate
I would flat the flop. You have decent backdoor equity and at max want 2 streets of value.

Turn, as played, obviously priced in with the draw you have. Tough spot on the river but given the action i would find a fold here. I think calling is reasonable as we have a premium bluff catcher, but villain can show up with anything here and he clearly has interest given the line he took. I could be completely wrong folding though given the pot odds and his range. But after a turn min-click i'm sceptical and would rather find a better spot.

It did feel like I should fold here.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Thank you all.

Please do not click on the spoiler below:

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PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 200.16 BB
SB: 115.92 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 182.64 BB
Hero (MP): 124.24 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9♣ 8♣

fold, Hero raises to 2.48 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.48 BB

Flop: (5.36 BB, 2 players) 5♣ 8♥ 3♥
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 3.48 BB, BB calls 2.48 BB

Turn: (12.32 BB, 2 players) 7♣
BB bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 5.8 BB, BB raises to 10.6 BB, Hero calls 4.8 BB

River: (33.52 BB, 2 players) 9♠
BB bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

BB shows J♣ 5♠ (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 53%, Flop 20%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows 9♣ 8♣ (Two Pair, Nines and Eights)
(Pre 47%, Flop 80%, Turn 89%)
Hero wins 62.56 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

This is note worthy. J5o shouldn't be in villains range.


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

Well, he played his hand exceptionally well. I like his bluff-value line - he is taking value from worse and fold better hands.

River is meh but when he halfs its almost impossible to fold rivered TP. He could do this for value with strong 8x for example.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987
This is note worthy. J5o shouldn't be in villains range.

Well, he is a rando, but sure if you have time you should take notes. J5o is off the solved ranges, obviously.


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

I just label him as whale. No need for any detailed notes as after few hours with him you would write novel


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LMcrow
Joined: 15.08.2006

against half pot easy call, yep fun player and whale.

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu
Well, he played his hand exceptionally well. I like his bluff-value line - he is taking value from worse and fold better hands.

River is meh but when he halfs its almost impossible to fold rivered TP. He could do this for value with strong 8x for example.

that has to be a meme


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