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Dr1fter808
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15.07.2022, 12:36

vs two unknown players

I get that I'm actually supposed to fold vs made flush on turn.

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 125.72 BB
SB: 113.44 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 41.24 BB
MP: 372.72 BB
CO: 107.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ A♣

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 8.6 BB, fold, UTG calls 7 BB

Flop: (28 BB, 3 players) 9♠ 6♥ A♥
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 9.36 BB, SB calls 9.36 BB, fold

Turn: (46.72 BB, 2 players) J♥
SB checks, Hero bets 15.6 BB, SB raises to 95.08 BB and is all-in, Hero ? ?

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EmiyaKiritsugu
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15.07.2022, 14:00

Quite easy call. A and J on board are significant blockers to his flushes(only 3 broadways in hearts possible) and if he has there flushes then 99,66 or AJ are certainly in his range too.


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Dr1fter808
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15.07.2022, 14:27

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu
Quite easy call. A and J on board are significant blockers to his flushes(only 3 broadways in hearts possible) and if he has there flushes then 99,66 or AJ are certainly in his range too.

I think this is a recreational player so he should have more Hearts combos in his range, QThh, KThh, KQhh, K9hh, T9hh, 98hh, Q9hh. Don't they often surprise you with their hole cards at SD?

Nevertheless, I agree with the call.


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EmiyaKiritsugu
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15.07.2022, 20:17

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Don't they often surprise you with their hole cards at SD?

Yeah, still blockers works also with fish range. Jh blocks more flushes than 7h. I realize he will have flush often there, but I dont care really. I'm not folding set with this SPR only cause 3rd flush card hit turn. I would be way more concerned if you were squeezing preflop and got 2 calls from regulars.


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SDK1987
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16.07.2022, 07:17

Against 2 unknowns you can always size up your Cbet sizing on the flop and turn of around half pot for value and protection. Read less I can't fold top set on the turn. Even against a flush you have still outs to win.

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16.07.2022, 18:04

Agreed — CBetting a decent amount an A-high flop when you hold AA in a 3Bet pot gives you lots of calls from AK, AQ etc — even better if they have two pair.

Originally posted by SDK1987
I can't fold top set on the turn. Even against a flush you have still outs to win.

Neither can I


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Dr1fter808
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17.07.2022, 12:20

Thanks for comments.

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PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 125.72 BB
SB: 113.44 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 41.24 BB
MP: 372.72 BB
CO: 107.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ A♣

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 8.6 BB, fold, UTG calls 7 BB

Flop: (28 BB, 3 players) 9♠ 6♥ A♥
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 9.36 BB, SB calls 9.36 BB, fold

Turn: (46.72 BB, 2 players) J♥
SB checks, Hero bets 15.6 BB, SB raises to 95.08 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 79.48 BB

River: (236.88 BB, 2 players) 8♠

SB shows J♦ Q♥ (One Pair, Jacks)<----This is a really really bad call preflop according to solver, duh.
(Pre 15%, Flop 7%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows A♦ A♣ (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 85%, Flop 93%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 228.88 BB


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EmiyaKiritsugu
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17.07.2022, 13:44

-This is a really really bad call preflop according to solver, duh.

WhaleSolver disagrees.


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17.07.2022, 14:15

What hand solver would use as semibluff for turn x-r? Probably won't have offsuit hands really so maybe like QQh or TTh?


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Dr1fter808
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17.07.2022, 15:09

Originally posted by ghaleon
What hand solver would use as semibluff for turn x-r? Probably won't have offsuit hands really so maybe like QQh or TTh?

I think TTh is a fold preflop. QQh is 4bet > cold call. In case of cold call, fold turn > semi bluff CR. I'm just guessing here since this is a 3 way pot.


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17.07.2022, 21:07

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu

-This is a really really bad call preflop according to solver, duh.

WhaleSolver disagrees.

:mdr: :mdr: it took me a minute...


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Vampiir142
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19.08.2022, 22:21

The turn rerise is so big but never fold it there. Who need so big rerise some one who want to protect weak hand?
If he had heards still ve have 10 outs.


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