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PLO50 QJT8ss naked 13-wrap facing pot-sized barrel

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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Idk if my turn-call was correct.. considering implied odds I assume to get his stack unless a Q♥:, T♥: or 7♥: rolls off. Giving him top-set and top-2pair primarily with 13 outs (32%) it´s an easy call but I have to take into account that some of those outs will be blocked regularly and there are reverse implied for the :heart:. If I calculate with clean outs only in fact I would have 25% where 50bb otr would be missing to get break-even. Without the dead-money it´s a standard fold ott oop usually.

So my question is, call the turn? River I am shoving any straight obv.

GG Poker - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $11.55 (23.1 bb)
SB: $58.81 (117.6 bb)
BB: $7.43 (14.9 bb)
Hero (UTG): $100.71 (201.4 bb)
MP: $104.30 (208.6 bb)
CO: $65.52 (131 bb)

SB posts $0.25, BB posts $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J♥: T♦: 8♦: Q♠:
Hero raises to $1.75, MP raises to $6.00, 3 folds, BB raises to $7.43 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.68, MP calls $1.43

Flop: ($22.54, 3 players) A♠: 8♥: 9♥:
Hero checks, MP bets $16.91, Hero calls $16.91

Turn: ($56.36, 3 players) K♣:
Hero checks, MP bets $56.36, Hero calls $56.36

River: ($169.08, 3 players) 2♦:
Hero checks, MP bets $23.60 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results: $169.08 pot ($1.49 rake)
Final Board: A♠: 8♥: 9♥: K♣: 2♦:

MP shows J♣: Q♣: A♦: A♥:: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 70%, Flop 96%, Turn 97%)

BB shows K♦: K♠: T♥: 4♠:: (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 30%, Flop 4%, Turn 3%)

MP wins $166.84


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

fold turn. simply because there is not much implieds left to justify another turn call


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

It's close spot indeed but I would also prefer folding turn bit more. With bit more implieds call would be good. Overall though EV is close in both options. Though I suppose chance of third villain having hearts will also decrease EV somewhat.

Not sure what you mean by dead money on turn.


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ZakYoun270
Joined: 10.12.2015

turn isn't even close, it is a clear fold with only ten nut outs and virtually no money behind. Even if we assume all 13 straight outs are good, it's not that great a situation, getting 2:1. We know 8 cards so there are 44 remaining. we like 13 and dislike 31. So we need 2.5:1. But there is less than half the turn bet left to be bet on the river.

And there is no reason why villain can't have hearts, or like he did a strong made hand with a gutty, substantially reducing our outs.


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ZakYoun270
Joined: 10.12.2015

". If I calculate with clean outs only in fact I would have 25% where 50bb otr would be missing to get break-even. "

We're getting 2:1 on the turn so we need a full 110 bb to break even on the river if we have 25%.

Technically we're supposed to look at our EV in both main and side pot although that gets a bit more complicated.


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