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Top 2 vs river shove

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Castle93
Joined: 06.06.2011

PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players
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sithari4 (UTG): $85.20 (341 bb)
Laser282 (MP): $24.45 (98 bb)
misteralex93 (CO): $27.69 (111 bb)
memento89 (BU): $66.95 (268 bb)
Mr.Gus187 (SB): $10.89 (44 bb)
elld123 (BB): $15.12 (60 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.35) Hero (misteralex93) is CO with Q K
1 fold, Laser282 (MP) raises to $0.62, misteralex93 (CO) calls $0.62, 2 players fold, elld123 (BB) calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.96) 4 Q 9 (3 players)
elld123 (BB) checks, Laser282 (MP) bets $1.25, misteralex93 (CO) calls $1.25, elld123 (BB) calls $1.25

Turn: ($5.71) 7 (3 players)
elld123 (BB) checks, Laser282 (MP) bets $5.45, misteralex93 (CO) calls $5.45, elld123 (BB) folds

River: ($16.61) K (2 players)
Laser282 (MP) bets $17.13 (all-in), misteralex93 (CO) calls $17.13

Total pot: $50.87 (Rake: $2)

In hindsight, I can probably fold the turn when he bets pot against 2 people considering I'm either drawing dead / way behind or he has a lot of equity, plus I have to fold anyway if BB shoves.

On the river, every draw gets there... The only hand I now beat which we were behind is Q9 which he probably doesn't shove.

Spoiler

Showdown:
Laser282 (MP) shows 4 4 (three of a kind, Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 52%, Flop: 96%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

misteralex93 (CO) shows Q K (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 48%, Flop: 4%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

Laser282 (MP) wins $48.87


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Infreed42
Joined: 08.07.2007

I'd prefer a 3bet vs most Vs. As played you dont have initiative. On this turn he is obviously polraized with the big bet, but you are waaaaay to high up your range to consider a fold. This will be an FD often enough. On the river it is an rather easy fold. He is never shipping worse unless he hates money.


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Castle93
Joined: 06.06.2011

Cheers man, although do disagree with 3betting pre tbh as I’d prefer to keep the pot smaller with such a marginal hand. IMO having the initiative is less relevant IP when you have a marginal hand which isn’t suited but curious what other people think.


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FriskyArt
Joined: 27.10.2009

I think you played the hand perfectly well until the river. Your self evaluation is spot on I think. However, sitting at the table under pressure, folding the river when you hit top 2p on a big pot is anything but easy! But I believe these are the spots we must learn to recognize we are beat and give up on the hand. Knowing your type of opponent may help in your decision making. However, I have to admit like most I probably would have called as well knowing I could be beat a decent amount of the time.


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Castle93
Joined: 06.06.2011

Cheers frisky. You’re so right and it’s my biggest leak. I’m thinking I’m probably beat but I’m going to call anyway 😂


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Folding the turn seems like a decent option as well. I don't expect villain will semi bluff against 2 players and villains bet is huge. That could be a tell as well. You have only a bluff catcher I think.

River is a tricky card with the flush, but I don't think villain will have a flush based on the post-flop action so far. That makes folding tough when you improved your hand.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Castle93
Joined: 06.06.2011

Good point SDK. I really don’t mind a fold OTT. I think he may play a combo draw specifically like this, which I appreciate is only 1 or 2 combos. The Kc does block a lot of these combos though, so maybe JTc specifically


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Preflop I would 3B most of the time. On the turn a pot bet is mostly powerhouse... Fold seems decent.


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