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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

BU is a 40/20/12 stabbing a lot ip and SB is a similar LAG player with 45/40/10 but I have barely evidence on that with just 50 hands so far. They 3-bet is screaming for AA so I have those cracked and try to gii against without giving freecard, I did not know that stats of BU yet cause I have no HUD ingame for those tables. Otherwise I´d have gone for the check-raise but this way giving a freecard looks quite dangerous too. How would you play the flop, and if you bet, what sizings do you take with the effective stacks involved?

GG Poker - $0.50 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $50.00 (100 bb)
SB: $114.06 (228.1 bb)
BB: $74.14 (148.3 bb)
UTG: $64.00 (128 bb)
Hero (MP): $112.03 (224.1 bb)
CO: $172.66 (345.3 bb)

SB posts $0.25, BB posts $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 8♦: 9♦: Q♦: T♥:
fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, BTN calls $1.75, SB raises to $7.50, fold, Hero calls $5.75, BTN calls $5.75

Flop: ($23.00, 3 players) 8♥: 2♦: T♣:
SB checks, Hero?

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Hero bets $23.00, BTN raises to $42.50 and is all-in, SB raises to $106.56 and is all-in, Hero calls $81.53 and is all-in

Finally facing the shove from SB is weird because most people would fold AAxx when facing a bet and a reshove? What are your thoughts about a fold or call?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It's most likely not the best idea to put a question in a spoiler, but I would bet round half pot and re-evaluete on further action on the flop.
As played you block all sets except 22xx and that makes it tough to fold with the decent odds you get.

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SDK1987


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by SDK1987
It's most likely not the best idea to put a question in a spoiler, but I would bet round half pot and re-evaluete on further action on the flop.
As played you block all sets except 22xx and that makes it tough to fold with the decent odds you get.

Also blocking straights, while drawing to a decent one.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Preflop we can think of folding but if we think both villains are somewhat out of line I think call gets lot better. But especially versus solid players we would have fair amount of domination issues with this hand and triple suitedness is not helping. Not saying call is necessarily bad option almost ever but we should recognize this is fairly marginal spot.

In flop with 100bb effectives I would pot bet two pairs very often. On other hand with 200bb I think we dont really want to pot that much in general. This spot is sort of mix that we are deeper versus SB. But I think I would lean more toward betting half pot as we are in position versus deep stack. Anyway if betting bigger we want to still go at max half of what BU has behind. Not big deal though I suppose but I personally like to keep betting open in case shorter stack shoves.

Well I did check spoiler now. When SB x-shove to this action he should have strong range and dry sort of AA should snap fold. Maybe he goes with AA+oesd. He doesnt have ton of sets but quite often when he does those would likely be adviced to look for x-r. This is kind of spot for SB that 100bb deep he can pot fair amount of stuff as SPR is around 2 but when stacks get to 200bb deep his range will have more issues on straightening turns which means less cbetting.

I think we have to stack off top 2 with nut gs and bdfd. I dont mind folding bit weaker top two like if we had lets say KT98 without two bdfd I think fold would be ok. I would give fair amount of credit for SB here without seeing any very light stack off in 3bet pot etc.


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PakerFace
Joined: 19.09.2010

I would fold this to a 3b 3way for starters. We do have position over the aggressor but we still have one more player behind and that makes a big diffrence in my opinion.
If only the SB was involved then I would make a call.

Flop is pretty dry. His 3b range in SB suppoused to be high card heavy so we can assume that he missed it. Although, pocket pairs might be in play.
I would definitely bet being checked to by the aggressor. I think half pot would do the job. I would pot if the flop was more wet.

Spoiler edit:
BU range should be widdest here so he can be shoving some draws+pp, maybe sets which are very unlikely as we block most of them.
SB on the other hand is saying that his crushing the board but what with? Seems like he's got sets in bis range in this spot.
I would probably call anyways. We do have a back up in our gs.


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

+1 fold preflop. Main reasons:
- its a squeeze, you pay more than to a 3bet
- you can assume it will almost always be a 3way hand when you call
- for multiway hand this hand lacks nuttiness in every way


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