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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 99 BB
BB: 168.92 BB
UTG: 256.68 BB
MP: 102.44 BB
CO: 142.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 3♦ 3♣

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.52 BB, Hero calls 2.52 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.44 BB, 2 players) 3♥ A♦ T♥
CO bets 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 8.28 BB, CO calls 5.88 BB

Turn: (23 BB, 2 players) 4♦
CO checks, Hero bets 32.68 BB, CO calls 32.68 BB

River: (88.36 BB, 2 players) J♠
CO bets 63.2 BB, Hero ? ?

Some of you suggested over betting on turn in similar SRP situation here,

https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3384647#post3384647

I am no stranger to over betting btw because 142% bet(and ask question later) is assigned to one of my Hotkeys at GGP.

So aside from being over set which there is nothing we can do, in terms of draws I think it narrows it down quite a bit.

Thoughts?


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I go broke OTR. Yes K♥:Q♥: hits. But also AJ and AT has top2 OTF. I cant get away. Maybe if a heart falls


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
I go broke OTR. Yes K♥:Q♥: hits. But also AJ and AT has top2 OTF. I cant get away. Maybe if a heart falls

Oh, yes, any Heart without the board pairing will crush 33, if it's a draw. But that's what the over bet accomplishes. AA/TT are not out of the picture either, although solver will recommend more straight forward value line in the villain's shoes.


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018

yep I am going broke as well.. could be set over set as well. besides KQ hearts.. but either way I am calling.

as I said before, you need to be willing to lose. I lose a lot but I also win more then I lose..


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I think it depends per villain if I would over bet the turn or not, but in general around half pot on turn and river isn't to bad ether with bottom set. As played it's tough to fold the river. KQ shouldn't be in villains range and if you are beat you would be beat by a higher set I think.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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LookAwayNow
Joined: 30.06.2011

I play a 3-bet only strat and fold this pre. When CO is opening loose, it's probably fine to flat this in position. On the flop I would raise a little bigger, at least 10BB, but probably 11-12BB.

Overbet on the turn is good. Can go a little smaller, like 125% is fine. He has a tough time calling with all straight and flushdraw combo's.

On the river it's completely different than that other hand we talked about. On the river he has some busted flush draws as bluffs. He shouldn't really have KQ other than KQ of hearts. So river is easy bluff-catcher. Sometimes we also see AJ/AT and sometimes he has a better set.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

If you must know.

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GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 99 BB
BB: 168.92 BB
UTG: 256.68 BB
MP: 102.44 BB
CO: 142.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 3♦ 3♣

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.52 BB, Hero calls 2.52 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (6.44 BB, 2 players) 3♥ A♦ T♥
CO bets 2.4 BB, Hero raises to 8.28 BB, CO calls 5.88 BB

Turn: (23 BB, 2 players) 4♦
CO checks, Hero bets 32.68 BB, CO calls 32.68 BB

River: (88.36 BB, 2 players) J♠
CO bets 63.2 BB, Hero calls 56.52 BB and is all-in

CO shows A♥ J♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 50%, Flop 31%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows 3♦ 3♣ (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 50%, Flop 69%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins 196.92 BB
I think V's shove is optimal because it's not just NFDH, it's TT draw that hits while FDH misses, A3/AT/SR:AK/AQ should not fold on river.
33 being in the range shouldn't matter.


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LookAwayNow
Joined: 30.06.2011

Makes sense, nice hand. :f_grin:


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