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AK 3bet - Flop: Fold, Call or Jam?

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Desperado87
Joined: 09.09.2006

So this is a hand of the Final table of the Daily Deep Stacks §1:

Seat 2: e01acea7 (1,830,701 in chips)
Seat 4: 48e53d71 (335,190 in chips)
Seat 5: Villain (1,324,487 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero (602,718 in chips)
Seat 7: 5fb33155 (301,260 in chips)
Seat 8: d928cfd3 (571,262 in chips)
Seat 9: 7bf68de9 (916,212 in chips)
d928cfd3: posts the ante 2,500
e01acea7: posts the ante 2,500
77a36208: posts the ante 2,500
7bf68de9: posts the ante 2,500
Hero: posts the ante 2,500
48e53d71: posts the ante 2,500
2e8d1aba: posts the ante 2,500
5fb33155: posts the ante 2,500
77a36208: posts small blind 10,000
e01acea7: posts big blind 20,000

48e53d71: folds
Villain: raises 20,000 to 40,000
Hero: raises 110,000 to 150,000
5fb33155: folds
d928cfd3: folds
7bf68de9: folds
77a36208: folds
e01acea7: folds
Villain: calls 110,000
FLOP [7h 8h 9c]
Villains: bets 115,500

How would you continue on the Flop? Fold, Call or Jam? As fas as I can tell Villains playstyle is loose.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Desperado87
So this is a hand of the Final table of the Daily Deep Stacks §1:
How would you continue on the Flop? Fold, Call or Jam? As fas as I can tell Villains playstyle is loose.

How suited is your AK?
If it is A♥:K♥: then I would jam — you're in 4th place and opponent is attempting to use ICM against you, but opponent is sitting second in chips and is unlikely to want to fall to third — or lower.

Other than A♥:K♥: you pretty much have a "no pair, no draw" hand and in that case, fold makes sense.

I really want to hear what the experts think though, since I get into these spots often


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Desperado87
Joined: 09.09.2006

Oh sorry forgot to mention that. It was Ac Ks.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely 3bet 3x in position against the big stack and consider to call a shove.
As played the board is pretty wet and you missed the flop completely.
Without reads I would fold against the lead of villain. It's tough to call with only 2 over cards and shoving would be ICM suicide with 2 shorter stacks in game. Off course we don't know the paid outs, but in most cases you need to be carefull as mid stack.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Desperado87
Joined: 09.09.2006

Thank you for your thoughts guys. Very much appreciated!

I've been thinking about this and believe his range was like Ax suited and offsuited, all kinds of suited connectors and pocket pairs. Unfortunately I don't remember his PFR exactly, but I'd say it was arround 19%, I believe his VPIP was arround 35%.
So I asked myself what hands would he call a jam with? I'd say with sets, the straight, an overpair, top pair and straight draws (like 9t).
He might fold bottom pair, because he played something like 57s, 33, 44.
He wouldn't call with Ax and qj that is not h.
So thinking about this I believe it was still a fold. Anyway, I was a bit on tilt and pushed. He called and showed 7c 5c and won the pot.


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NoNameHypo
Joined: 28.04.2023

Shove pre :f_biggrin:. Seriously..Heavy ICM..The players are weak...They can call with a lot of weaker hands (Ax, even some KQ, KJ..), you will miss the flop often, just shove pre and forget :f_biggrin:
As played fold OTF


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