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PLO50 AKK2ss turn barrel?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

BB just joined table orbit ago.

So pre and flop standard. On turn we get fd as support and question is if we should actually just check this back? We can bet-call so its kind of ok to barrel but at same time we are not happy about this scenario. So perhaps we should look to check without 9 or T? Lower straight blockers are somewhat less relevant imo as its usually mainly nuts that will x-r anyway.

Also not having nfd is relevant as if villain does raise non nut straight it can often come with nfd. Also semibluffs (very rare imo) will often be with nfd. So yeah that is also increasing chance to get raised and decreasing my equity. So yeah I am leaning more and more toward check now.

Game #1985968842: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 19:55:04 2023/11/16
Seated players
Seat 2: IKIUNI (€50.82)
Seat 3: Papparaas (€94.73)
Seat 4: k_haukka (€50)
Seat 5: Virtal (€87.66)
Seat 6: amumu99 (€63.92)
Blinds and button
Virtal has the button
amumu99 posts small blind €0.25
IKIUNI posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Papparaas A♥:2♦:K♠:K♦:
Preflop
Papparaas raises €1.75 to €1.75
k_haukka folds
Virtal folds
amumu99 folds
IKIUNI calls €1.25
Flop K♥:6♣:8♦: (3.75€)
IKIUNI checks
Papparaas bets €2.81
IKIUNI calls €2.81
Turn 7♦: (9.37€)
IKIUNI checks
Papparaas bets €4.68
IKIUNI raises €23.41 to €23.41
Papparaas calls €18.73
River T♣: (56.19€)
IKIUNI bets €22.85, and is all-in
Papparaas folds


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

I think check is fine result orientated, but Bet push is also fine. I dont like call. Sometimes he has a set + nut flush Draw.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

The only draw from the flop completes on the turn. If we think what kind of hands he should have in his flop calling range, most of that range is either ahead of us or a mile behind. From those hands that are behind, it's hard to get value. On the other hand, versus straights opponent can raise if we bet and gain value from us.

When we have diamonds, the odds for him to have lower flush draw goes down a little. If we valuebet the turn, he needs to have either a set (small portion of his range) or some combo hand with fd. Most of his weaker made hands will just fold.

If he has OESD on the flop and now on the turn, I wouldn't mind checking as he has just 6 outs.

So overall I don't think we gain much from betting. Small portion of his range gives us value and we don't really need protection. With check we get a river versus possible straight and also we have the hand where we can call all blank rivers and gain value from his bluffs on the river.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

What should we do when we bet turn? This hand is so strong, but i would like to check turn most of the time.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

If we think his raise range is straights, we call and fold unimproved. If we think he might be semibluffing often, we just shove it in.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

He Might Find himself strong enough not decide Its a semibluff or nuts. Its not a bad play from his part to play set + fd the same as he would play the nuts. Probably the only hands in his range that balance the nut straight and make fold better on River by push.

He has so much equity on turn to play for stack against straight and at the same time make fold better on river


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

Sometimes they pay to improve


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