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PLO50 TT76ss 4way 3bet pot, line with low boat?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Preflop I would normally fold but table has several high vpip players on EP, BU and SB. So I thought I dont mind to get involved. EP also using non pot size. Once we get squeezed and close the action I think call is fine.

Flop is pretty nice and perhaps leading out small could make some sense. Problem is it looks pretty strong and as we are deep with BU and SB it can also lead into tough spots. Well SPR is only 3.5 so even if we get raised I think folding would not be option really. But yeah KT is not that rare combo. So as we unblock AQJ leading could be fine option.

Turn is nice low card opening fd and it comes checked again to me so I went for 1/3 pot hoping to get action from less thank Kx as well.

River is blank and I doubt BU has Kx almost ever so cant really go huge. Used half pot to potentially get call from AA or some other non believer hand.

Game #1991851432: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:54:42 2023/11/26
Seated players
Seat 1: HV12313 (€50)
Seat 2: NoPainNoRake (€391.95)
Seat 3: Padasd (€97.27)
Seat 4: StayStrong (€123.71)
Seat 5: Fonda1 (€158.88)
Seat 6: mRniNGC0Fffe (€50)
Blinds and button
StayStrong has the button
Fonda1 posts small blind €0.25
mRniNGC0Fffe posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Padasd T♦:7♣:6♠:T♣:
Preflop
HV12313 raises €1.43 to €1.43
NoPainNoRake folds
Padasd calls €1.43
StayStrong raises €6.47 to €6.47
Fonda1 calls €6.22
mRniNGC0Fffe folds
HV12313 calls €5.04
Padasd calls €5.04
Flop T♥:K♠:K♣: (26.38€)
Fonda1 checks
HV12313 checks
Padasd checks
StayStrong checks
Turn 4♠: (26.38€)
Fonda1 checks
HV12313 checks
Padasd bets €8.50
StayStrong calls €8.50
Fonda1 folds
HV12313 folds
River 3♣: (43.38€)
Padasd bets €21.69


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I would try to check-raise flop. There are usually two hands that give value to us, Kxxx and AAxx. We want to stack off versus Kxxx, as we are ahead of that range. We block KT (only one T in the deck). If we check-call, we put ourselves in horrible turn and river decisions when opponent barrels.

Once flop goes checked, definitely stab the turn. As fd opens, I would go for half a pot, I doubt that high VPIP player folds AA to one bet. And on the river half a pot is good, wouldn't be super surprised if he calls with AA.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

I think flop check is tricky but the best option. Most of the time I show agression as soon as I can in multiway pot. So much power in it.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Yeah, but it's a spot where those high VPIP players cbet AA quite often.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

I believe you. I like poker but it is soon impossible to play from Hungary. Im not playing for a year


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hazelasty
Joined: 20.05.2009

I would bet bigger on the river.
I would fold preflop even if table is screwing around.
ELSE nh


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Even with high VPIP players we shouldn't widen our ranges too much. Most pots will be multiway, so we would like to have nut/strong components in our hand. TT76 will flop non-nut wraps/straights, and fd is low. That leaves us set mining, which is rarely a profitable situation. Also, if someone 3bets we end up in nasty situations.

If opponents are kind of players who won't 3bet anything but AA and are betting/raising only valuehands postflop, then this hand should be profitable with a call. The sizing doesn't really matter as hero is not on the blinds. Still, I would skip this hand.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well I did get called on river by surprising boat as BU had 6433ds with two spades. But yeah exactly type of hand I wanted to keep in pot with small turn bet. Though maybe half pot would have been called as well.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Opponent 3bets 6433, doesn't cbet flop and then calls turn?

To be fair, none of our default strategy should target THAT hand with turn value bet.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

I agree . It is funny You Find this hand In range. I was afraid here someone has KKxx poker on flop.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Meant similar hands from all opponents range :)


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Similar hands means low fd? As those low pocket pairs aren't much of a value. The thing is that he shouldn't call the small bet with low fd. If he does, then probably that decision is based on emotions instead of logic. And he most likely calls half a pot bet too.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

I think the Bet size is fine. He Might thinks we want to take the pot cheap


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