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PLO50 6543ds pile in on flop?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Villain has seemed reggy somewhat tight one so far. No postflop reads.

Easy open pre and flop is clear cbet. We get raised and I think this is ok spot to just 3bet and get it in? Versus QQ or Q5 without higher fd we are doing ok. Issue is when we run into combo like Q+fd. Now villain is supposed to have some blocker type raise-fold combos but not sure how much those exist in reality. Like its kinda nice if we get some AsQTT to fold.

We can just call but sort of issue perhaps is that we cant really value bet flush even when hitting. On other hand we are in position so perhaps it still make more sense to just call with high SPR?

Game #2316211561: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:14:44 2025/10/23
Seated players
Seat 2: Norlns (€49.25)
Seat 3: Swaffelbob (€53.07)
Seat 4: Tyrurs (€52.87)
Seat 5: PerkeIe (€0) (sitting out)
Seat 6: Goudeerlijk (€51.32)
Blinds and button
Tyrurs has the button
Goudeerlijk posts small blind €0.25
Norlns posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Tyrurs 5♦:4♠:6♦:3♠:
Preflop
Swaffelbob folds
Tyrurs raises €1.75 to €1.75
Goudeerlijk folds
Norlns calls €1.25
Flop 5♣:2♠:Q♠: (3.75€)
Norlns checks
Tyrurs bets €2.81
Norlns raises €9.84 to €9.84
Tyrurs?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by ghaleon
Flop 5♣:2♠:Q♠: (3.75€)
Norlns checks
Tyrurs bets €2.81
Norlns raises €9.84 to €9.84
Tyrurs?

This screams, "I hold QQ — I dare you to call with your OESD and two flush blockers"
Me? I would take that dare, which is likely why I avoid PLO


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Obviously we are never ever folding. Question in my mind was if it's better to push our raw equity or just call.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I would call. You have nut outs and if flush gets there you should have info whether itäs good or not. If spade comes and opponent bets big, he probably has the flush quite often (as your calling range should have fd very often, so flushing card is bad to bluff).

Calling is guaranteed +EV, while raising is not.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Would you go for value on flushing turn vs check? It's probably too thin as it would more or less target QQ exactly.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

No, as opponent also has flushes in his check range. Would need more info that opponent's raise range is weighted heavily on made hands.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah agree on that. Anyway result wise I

Spoiler

went with flop 3bet and luckily run into dry top set. It was 50/50 flip and managed to hit river straight.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Checked this in trainer now with subcription and theory wise its pretty clear 3bet but here is the crucial part that likely doesnt happen in reality:

So opponent is supposed to fold 40% of time to 3bet. Now in reality this is likely at most 20%.


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CZENG
Joined: 21.01.2026

out of curiousity i looked at it with flophero. I've noticed that flophero and PLO trainer sims are slightly different.

6543ds does have some 3b but prefers calling most of the time.


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