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ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

1) is this still a value bet on the river ?
How would you decide if vailants wts would be different ?

SB [59.4|24.5|1.31|37.3]

PartyPoker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (6 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BU with T♠, Q♠
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.00 SB) T♣, K♣, 3♥ (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 4♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 8♠ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB.

2) do you 3-bet here the flop ?

CO [unknown]

PartyPoker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (5 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5♦, 4♣
1 folds, CO (poster) checks, BU calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.00 SB) 6♠, 7♥, 4♥ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BU folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 6♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.50 BB) K♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.50 BB.

3) is this a good spot for a semi bluff check raise on the flop if the wts would be lower?

BU [62.4|7.2|0.66|44.2]

PartyPoker 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (5 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6♣, 4♣
MP calls, CO raises, BU calls, 1 folds, Hero calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 7♣, 8♠, Q♣ (4 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, BU bets, Hero calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) A♠ (4 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, CO folds, BU raises, Hero folds, MP calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 5♥ (2 players)
MP checks, BU bets, MP calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB.


4 replies

sorry for answering that late.

1) fine

2) no and i fold the river

3) call - you get 1 to 5 here (it depends a little bit from MPs aggression but most people wont 3bet the passive button who seems to have a made hand.
Also you can be sure to get 1 or 2 bb's on the river so you have also some implied odds.


ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

Originally posted by Stefan1000
sorry for answering that late.

2) no and i fold the river

thx so far

can you please explain why not 3-bet the flop and take the lead?

(should I not take advantage of the fold equity in that case ?)

thank you.


Why do you want to 3bet the Flop?

Everybody else folded so a 3bet is not for value in this case.
Also you cant take yourself a freecard because you are out of position.

But after reviewing the hand i would say call the river against unknown.
There are a lot of busted draws and a lot of crazy people on this limit so call river is fine.


ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

Originally posted by Stefan1000
Why do you want to 3bet the Flop?

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O.K. I think I understand. Let me repeat if I get it now.

On this draw heavy board it is easily possible that CO is also on a draw.

But on a 3-bet no worse hand would call and a better hand would'nt fold.

Is this the correct way to see this situation ?