Originally posted by tokyoaces
Originally posted by cryoburn
I prefer the HEM HUD customization system and stats.I've never seen a custom HUD for HEM ever. I just checked the latest version and it doesn't even allow customization ...
(... or we have an extremely different view of the concept of customization.)
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Erm... It's fully custom... There isn't much you can't do with the HUD in HEM 
What I like HEM HUD is that you can easily config multiple and color coded stats in several different panels that you can adjust while playing. You can adjust position, color, transparency, auto resize, font, etc. You can use different HUD for each table at the same time and double-click a single player's HUD to show just the stats of that single session you're playing.
I remember having a bit of a hard time to config PT3 HUD.
Now I use +20 stats in-game in my NL 6-max HUD and I'm very proud of it and I keep updating it with stats and color code adjustments.
Here's what I remember since I don't have time to try it out right now:
* The pop-ups weren't very configurable. You couldn't make nice charts.
* You can't color code one stat based on another stat or two stats.
* There was a really low limit to the number of stats you could configure on the hud.
The deal-breaker right now is lack of tabbed pop-up because I really don't think there is a way to organize all that information.
Villan session stats is cool, but I think a better "toggle" would be to be able to filter out observed hands instead.
Originally posted by tokyoaces
Here's what I remember since I don't have time to try it out right now:* The pop-ups weren't very configurable. You couldn't make nice charts.
* You can't color code one stat based on another stat or two stats.
* There was a really low limit to the number of stats you could configure on the hud.The deal-breaker right now is lack of tabbed pop-up because I really don't think there is a way to organize all that information.
Villan session stats is cool, but I think a better "toggle" would be to be able to filter out observed hands instead.
After being HEM exclusive for longer than I can remember now... I thought I better download PT3 and see what all the updates have done to their software....
And PT3 is looking rather nice now... The HUD is annoying me a little, but it could just be teething problems. Although since I started using the PT3 trial I see what you mean it does look pretty. However, I don't like the fact you can't actually fully explore the software in the trial.
There is a lot of options I'd like to explore before I commit to buying the software. The other thing I don't like is you can't configure what stats it shows you on the general tab like you can on HEM.
All that being said, I am going to use the trial for the 60 day period, as I think this software has improved immensely since I used it last.
Also @ tokyoaces:
I see what you mean about the pop up menu, but you don't get a tabbed view because if you click on different stats on your HUD of the player you are looking for info on, you get different popups depending which stats you choose.
Example: You click on VPIP... You would get all the information on VPIP PFR 3- betting etc. You click on Fold to steal, you would see all info on stealing their ATS when they fold how often they resteal.
The customization is also very easy (IMO, but I know this software inside out) and you can add as many stats as you like to the HUD (if you want a hand I'll help you on Sykpe or something) I've actually had over 30 stats on it to see how it would run. You can also colour code each stat AND you can colour code ranges as well.
For example: Lets take VPIP as it's usually the first on everyones HUD.
Say villians VPIP is below 10 I have this labeled as red
VPIP between 10.1 > 20 I have a beige colour
VPIP between 20.1 > 25 I have as green
VPIP over 25.1 > I have these as fuscia so they stand out the most.
I guess the longer you play with software the more comfy you become so the more you explore.
Does anyone use PT3 for tourney and SnG tracking, I remember they had awful issues with this when PT3 was released? Are they fixed?
I'll pop back when I've explored the limited options they give in the trial... But I do think it is nicer looking.... And my deal breaker is I would have to pay for software that won't show me what it can actually do?! How can I know how slow or fast it will run if I can't run everything?
Originally posted by MrMardyBum
There is a lot of options I'd like to explore before I commit to buying the software. The other thing I don't like is you can't configure what stats it shows you on the general tab like you can on HEM.
Sorry to focus on this one thing ... is this a limitation of the trial? I don't really know much about what is lock out of the trial I'm afraid.
Originally posted by MrMardyBum
The customization is also very easy (IMO, but I know this software inside out) and you can add as many stats as you like to the HUD (if you want a hand I'll help you on Sykpe or something) I've actually had over 30 stats on it to see how it would run. You can also colour code each stat AND you can colour code ranges as well.
They removed the 64 stat limit? Also I'm afraid I can't live without my color of stats based on other stats so really this is a deal breaker. 
Originally posted by MrMardyBum
For example: Lets take VPIP as it's usually the first on everyones HUD.
I color my VPIP by VPIP and PFR. I color my PFR by the spread between VPIP and PFR. I color my Agg% by the old AF stat. I don't think I can go back to the old way anymore.
Also, if we want to really start a holy war we can start discussing how HEM completely messed up the Agg% stat when they implemented it. ♦
Originally posted by MrMardyBum
And my deal breaker is I would have to pay for software that won't show me what it can actually do?! How can I know how slow or fast it will run if I can't run everything?
The trial is fully functional except for custom stats. It's pretty clear why those aren't free since it's by far the most powerful feature of the software! If they gave them away for nothing there would be no reason to buy it. 
I used pt3 trial and had access to pretty much everything - haven't found anything in there that was restricted...HUD, customization of the HUD, everything was available.
The most powerful part of the software? Exactly.. For all I know this is also the part that clogs the ststem and makes it slow. HEM trial nothing is inaccessable.
Most Database management option are not available, and also the table tracker...
I'll explain about the database thing...
I keep A LOT of databases, one for each poker site I have played at, and one overall.
I also keep databases across all sites at specific limits... So one database for all sites at NL2 all the way to NL200. So yeah I have a lot and can't see how PT3 handles those either. And I am not sure I want to pay to find out it can't handle the work load that HEM can. also monthly (when I am playing reg) and yearly. I know there isn't muck need for the level databases now but I started them when software wasn't so advanced... And I think I have a mild case of OCD cos I still keep them that way.
I do agree that it looks much nicer though.
You can absolutely make custom stats that kill your individual computer of course. However most stats are simple and don't do any harm. It's only really complex stats that can't use the cache. It's kind of a moot point though because these are the exact kinds of stats HEM can't do. (I don't use any of these kind yet, but apparently some new optimizations mean I could if I wanted.)
Anyway, as far as multiple databases go PT3 really wins here. I also have all of mine separated out by game type, but not by limit, and I guess all I can say about that is that it only takes a few seconds to switch between each one. (I doubt HEM is any different here.)
The really nice thing about PT3 is the fact that you can have the HUD pull from multiple databases at once. HEM couldn't do this last time I checked and that's another deal breaker since I don't want my data mined hands in my main databases.
Aw, I'm going to have to pay for more poker software ain't I? 
Also, I have the nuts of a PC... I am a techy and I used to work for Toshiba fixing laptops and Acer fixing PC's... It's just the software I was worried about
Also, is there anyway to add your bonus details? Like if I take a $50 with my FPP's or get my stellar rewards can I add these?.... This isn't anything major, just wondering
Originally posted by MrMardyBum
Also, is there anyway to add your bonus details? Like if I take a $50 with my FPP's or get my stellar rewards can I add these?.... This isn't anything major, just wonderingNo, they take a different approach to features. Eventually bankroll stuff will be added, but they aren't just going to tack-on some rackback and bonus stats. They'll just wait until they can do the whole bankroll management.
However, I don't think its really in the "coming soon" category yet either.
I have a question - how does HEM and PT3 perform on windows 7? Anyone have any problems with either?
Hey Skraggy,
I am running the latest version of HEM on Windows 7 and i haven't suffered any problems whatsoever.
As long as you you run it as administrator then there shouldn't be any problems.
Kind Regards,
-Steve
they've been saying the multi currency support is coming very soon for ages now... is it actually coming soon?
Also, how do you colour code your vpip and pfr by difference?
Cheers
Bjorn
Thanks guys - gonna make my descision between the two when my 60 day trial for PT3 expires ♦
i have a question.if i move from pokertracker to HM,and import my database to HM,will my hud display the stats for my opponents or is being reset?
Originally posted by agelisgr
i have a question.if i move from pokertracker to HM,and import my database to HM,will my hud display the stats for my opponents or is being reset?
You will have to import all your hands again and as that's done from the saved HH's you will have all the information that you've already got.
Originally posted by webjockeycontact
they've been saying the multi currency support is coming very soon for ages now... is it actually coming soon?Also, how do you colour code your vpip and pfr by difference?
Cheers
Bjorn
Both already have this...
It's in the HUD config panel to colour code your stats.
