[Closed] nl 100 (sweat session hand 1) - AA oop vs apparent fish (70bb)

I prefer 3betting not for balance reasons but because i think that the fish is very likely to call our 3bet due to his 50% vpip. And once it gets post flop i think he will commit himself faster than he would in a non 3betted pot.

And once it gets post flop i think he will commit himself faster than he would in a non 3betted pot.

If this is correct then I am inclined to agree with you, because our overall aim is definitely to get the fish to commit himself.

My reasoning for thinking he commits himself less easily in a three bet pot was that by 3betting we have shown strength, so even a fish will probably need to flop a better hand on average -- compared to a non-3bet pot - to get the money in.

but it would be useful to hear from the judge and others.

3bet pre all day long.
U want him to commit as much money as possible. Fish don´t think about ur handstrength. They only care about their own cards.

He will commit postlfop easier cause stack to pot ratio is smaller and if he hits something hes not folding.

i cant imagine any single advantage in calling pre. 3 bet is superior better.
and frankly i cant judge hand while we are not agressors and op vs passive fish..may be it played well... imo u can bet more turn

Originally posted by Becks777
3bet pre all day long.
U want him to commit as much money as possible. Fish don´t think about ur handstrength. They only care about their own cards.

He will commit postlfop easier cause stack to pot ratio is smaller and if he hits something hes not folding.

+1

About getting him to call more postflop: Consider that even by 3betting to an amount as small as $9 the pot is already $18 on the flop, he needs to call your cbet significantly less often in the 3bet pot than in the normal raised pot to make up for it.

Also since you're OOP it will be extremely hard to extract value postflop when you just flat the openraise.
Check/raising will mostly just earn you small pots because he just cbet/folds - and if you lead out he can just fold anyway.

I've learnt a lesson here, for sure. Just to check, you're all saying we should play AA vs fish the same way we would play it vs a good player?

Originally posted by Tim64
I've learnt a lesson here, for sure. Just to check, you're all saying we should play AA vs fish the same way we would play it vs a good player?

OOP without a special reason I'd still 3bet almost always.
Against a good player it will be very hard to extract value postflop because a check/raise always looks strong:
He raises UTG and sees you're a reg, so he must assume you recognize he has a strong range.
Therefore you don't play back too light and so once you do check/raise you overrepresent your hand in most cases which means he doesn't call worse - you're effectively bluffing with your overpair (ok this might be a bit exaggerated, but I guess you get what I'm trying to say ;))