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Hand 2) Poll is created on Oct 09, 2007

  
  
  
  

[Closed] Instructional sample hands #11

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1) Would you play this hand the same way? If not why and how to play it otherwise?

0,10/0,20 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♣, T♣
2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, BU calls, SB calls, BB folds, MP3 calls.

Flop: (9,00 SB) A♣, 3♥, 8♠ (4 players)
SB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, BU calls, SB calls, MP3 folds.

Turn: (6,00 BB) 3♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, BU calls, SB calls.

River: (9,00 BB) 9♥ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BU checks.

Final Pot: 9,00 BB

2) Villain is a PS.com TAG. What do you do on the river?

3/6 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9♥, 9♦
2 folds, CO raises, BU folds, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: (7,00 SB) 2♠, 5♣, 3♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (4,50 BB) 5♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (6,50 BB) 4♦ (2 players)
Hero ???

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9 replies

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I would not have raised pre flop. This hand does not have any showdown value, it plays well in multiway pots and is definitely a positive implied odds hand. In fact it lives of its implied odds so isolating the limper does not make any sense. I would have limped to invite others to join. After raising preflop betting on flop is worth a try. I'd never barrel again on turn if two people called this dry and scary flop. I would be done with the hand even if just one opponent was left.

2.

c/f

A-high is villains most likely holding which hits the straight on the river. We beat very few reasonable holdings. 44, 66, 77 and 88 would probably have raised on the flop and at this point we just beat 77 and 88 anyways, which probably would not call. A bet on river would be a classic river mistake because no (very few) hands we beat would call. As PS.com TAG he himself would check behind his pockets we beat, because he can not expect weaker hands to call, and value bet his straight so check fold is the corect line against this opponent.


Hi Hansshi,

never seen you here. You are new here? :)


yeah. from PS.de. I did not post much there as well until now. Maybe i'll take a look into here from time to time.


Alright. :) Hope you have a good time here too. :)


1) I would play c/f at the flop, or at the latest at the turn. There are three villains - too many to push out -, we only have a backdoor fd and a backdoor sd, and are almost certainly behind.

2) A PS TAG would raise the turn on a made hand, including a pocket pair, or on a flush draw. He would call the turn on overcards + something (for instance a gutshot). So it's very likely he has something like A[Q-7]

I really see no hands he would play this way that we beat. But I also can't fold top pair HU. Therefore c/c.


HariRadovan
Joined: 01.04.2007

1) I think the contibet on the flop is ok cause there is a (small) chance noone has an A and you might pick up the pot with your bet. But after getting called in 2 spots on this board I would give up my bluff on the turn.

2) I`m not completely sure but I think check-call is fine here.


HariRadovan I edited you color because it was too easy to read. :) Can you use the color which is recommended next time please? :)


1) The 'isolation raise' 4 handed I like to check-fold the flop. We don't have enough fold equity even on this dry board.

2) Difficult hand. Let's try to analyze possible hands:
- AA, KK, QQ (JJ, TT) would cap preflop
- other pockets like 44-99 would either raise the Flop or at least the Turn
- Ax will call flop and Turn with possible overcard and gut shot outs
Maybe some pocket only calls every street because he doesn't want to fold to a 3bet on the Turn. Anyway the only hand we would beat is 77 or 88, against all others we are behind. So I voted for check/fold.


1) Preflop is close and it's not necessary here to raise here but the biggest mistake in this hand is the flopplay. Against more that 2 opponent you better just check and call if you get the right outs and else fold. On good boards you can make a bet against more people but on the lower stakes I would not recommend you to do this.

2) Check/fold is correct and and I like the analyses made by Hansshi, Classical (even if you can't fold *g*) and TCR. :)