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Doratti
Joined: 23.10.2010

No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
7 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$5.00+$0.24

Stacks:
UTG (1,685)
UTG+1 (2,530)
MP (2,390)
CO (228)
Hero (3,817)
SB (2,040)
BB (2,310)

Blinds: 200/400 Ante 50

Pre-Flop: (950, 7 players) Hero is BTN K♣ 8♦
4 folds, Hero goes all-in 3,767, 1 fold, BB goes all-in 1,860

Flop: Q♦ 5♦ 2♠ (6,577, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: 2♦ (6,577, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River: 10:club: (6,577, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: 6,577
Hero shows a pair of Deuces
K♣ 8♦
BB shows two pair, Queens and Deuces
A♣ Q♠

BB wins 5,070 (net +2,760)

Hero collects 1,507 (net -2,310)

I am not interested about my play. I would make that push anytime with any 2 cards, because blinds are regs. Thing which is important here is BB calling range. So, i already made following calculations:

BB odds: 1.51:1
Share of pool if he folds: 10.58%
Share of pool if he wins: 25.89%
Equity vs random hand: 64.9%

and have following questions:
1, How to calculate rest part of math? Is it correct(Equity*pool if he wins)? Guess not, i have never done that kind of math before :)
2, What would be the right way to calculate Share of prize pool? I made it this way
Chance to finish top 5 / 10 + %of chips in play you have / 2.
Simplified version would be "ICM spreadsheet for don for half of share + current chip stack in $".
But i`m concerned i`m wrong. In that way of calculation i must assume that he will ALWAYS get his part for chips he has. Multiplying instead of summing would make more sense for me, because chance to finish top 5 also means you get money for your stack. Anyway, you get a random number this way.
3, What should be BB calling range in this spot?

I hope you guys wont leave me alone here, i need help :)


3 replies

I plan to make a video on fifty50 theory this month. Your method of averaging the DoN and winner-takes-all equities should work, although there are shortcuts you will see in the video.

My calculations disagree with yours, and I think mine are right.

Fold
DoN: 15.32%
WTA: 12.4%
fifty50: 13.86%

Call and Win
DoN: 19.42%
WTA: 33.8%
fifty50: 26.61%

The BB needs 13.86/26.61 = 52.1% equity against your range to call, a risk premium of 15.4%. Your Nash pushing range on the button is 82%, and the BB can call with 34% against that range: 44 Ax K4s K6o Q8s Q9o J9s JTo.


Doratti
Joined: 23.10.2010

Just don`t make it too long or for gold members :P Big thanks for reply. Lets hope PS.com will become first to release 50/50 vid :)


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Didn't realise villain was so not risk-averse here. Pretty sick spot, nice analysis pzhon.