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k4ileb
Joined: 10.10.2010

Originally posted by Bliausmas

Originally posted by k4ileb
imo pokerstars is the most rigged site. it's so obvious.

i recently deposited 100$ to multitable 1.75$ Turbos 9man SnGs

If you honestly believe that the sentence in bold is true, you are uber-stupid for making the underlined thing.

i made 100$ deposit to play at stars and then i understood the bold text ..

ok smartie ?


Originally posted by k4ileb

Originally posted by Bliausmas

Originally posted by k4ileb
imo pokerstars is the most rigged site. it's so obvious.

i recently deposited 100$ to multitable 1.75$ Turbos 9man SnGs

If you honestly believe that the sentence in bold is true, you are uber-stupid for making the underlined thing.

i made 100$ deposit to play at stars and then i understood the bold text ..

ok smartie ?


Poker could very well be rigged. But its very unlikely rigged against you, why should that be? If you have ran bad now, a rigged site should give you a good run soon.

Did you run hot before?


I think stars have the worst bad beat percentage. Come to think of it, you cant feel safe with a better or a dominant hand against any xx cards, because stars just work like this: bad players dont hold, they usually loose a lot and quit or try another site witch is -rake for stars, so they make donkeys as we call them win as they will eventually loose everything witch concludes in a lot of rake. Also, it is equal to everyone, but a good player would never go all in against a 3-bet with lets say 34s, because he knows it is not profitable or even quite insane, whilst a bad player will. Ive seen it so many times not against me all the time, ofcourse I also get into situations like this, but its just so obvious - it happens too many times, its not percentage, its not statistics, its somekind of system that brings profit to our beloved PokerStars.
You can hardly prove it, but, please, you simply can not deny this.


Waiboy
Joined: 18.09.2008

:f_cry:


Well the truth is that the most rigged poker room EVER is...

Spoiler

...always the room I am currently playing.


vilnis29
Joined: 26.06.2010

lol show better hand when you in flop is set and you loose or somthing like that, not that sh*t like KT off and A as kicker ?(

sry but you are idiot


k4ileb
Joined: 10.10.2010

Originally posted by vilnis29
lol show better hand when you in flop is set and you loose or somthing like that, not that sh*t like KT off and A as kicker ?(

sry but you are idiot

i can't really search all 18K hands in stars SnGs. those were just simple examples.

another example.

Hero AA
Donk 9J

Flop 329 (no flush draws)

you trap him he reraises all in, you smile and call and he's gonna hit runner for a set or two pair and he's gonna hit 80% of the time. Typical stars.


gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008

I like the way percentages are tossed around at random, like I lose 95% of times I am dominated and 'he's gonna hit 80% of the time; just ill-informed guesswork.

I suggest a separate forum for this stuff, where they can all gather round discussing conspiacy theories and crying into their beer. Notice the avoidance tactic of shoulder shrugging when confronted; ' I really don't care about the KT v QJ hand.' When you play SnGs - which, admittedly, I don't very often these days - I suggest every hand should bother you.
Oh, and showing a few examples to 'prove' your point is just weak, it only takes one counter-example to dismiss the whole argument...I bet you can find one. :)


I want to see you All in ev if you say you lose 80% your dominating hands. Is your All in ev above 0?


k4ileb
Joined: 10.10.2010

i have Poker Tracker 3 Trial and it has no all in-EV line _frown:

actually it's not trial cause i found a way to be trial for ever :f_biggrin:


if it's rigged, why don't you move to another site?
pokerstars is not rigged. those who say it's, suck. they think they're great at poker, while they're average, or bad. and they don't change sites because, if they did, they wouldn't have an excuse to explain why they lose money, while they are good.

tldr version: you suck, not rigged.


mattisks
Joined: 14.06.2009

Did you try to play some live poker games?

Play two or three tournaments and you'll quickly realize that live game is rigged as well! _cool:


mattisks
Joined: 14.06.2009

but I've seen playing Platinum Star at my table. I've never seen such a sweetheart. You could put him on his hand anytime. And yeah. He was profitable player -1700 on 0.01/0.02. Is it worth to lose 1700+ just to be a platinum star? Now that's my question.

Otherwise good luck whiney mate. I would recommend you to play 18 tables at once so you won't find time to complain about your bad beats _biggrin:


Originally posted by k4ileb
imo pokerstars is the most rigged site. it's so obvious.

i recently deposited 100$ to multitable 1.75$ Turbos 9man SnGs

they are really soft. you know you are gonna get called by worst hands. problem is... YOU LOSE! you shove with the best hand and you busto out of nowhere.

i've played 350 SnGs and my ROI is 2% . it's insane.

You shove with AKs he calls with A3o and 3 hits the board. all the time the same typical situations! i don't tilted just because i know i put my moneys in with the best hand. but im so angry with jokerstars. they want donkies in the site. they want to make us furious. some examples are following.

Tour #1

PokerStars - $1.50+$0.25|200/400 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: 1,885.00
UTG: 2,770.00
Hero (BTN): 3,130.00
SB: 5,715.00

BB posts ante 25.00, UTG posts ante 25.00, Hero posts ante 25.00, SB posts ante 25.00, SB posts SB 200.00, BB posts BB 400.00

Pre Flop: (700.00) Hero has K♥ A♥

UTG raises to 2,745.00 and is all-in, Hero raises to 3,105.00 and is all-in, fold, fold

Flop: (6190.00, 2 players) 4♦ 3♥ Q♠

Turn: (6190.00, 2 players) 2♣

River: (6190.00, 2 players) 9♠

UTG shows A♣ 3♦ (One Pair, Threes) (PreFlop 25%, Flop 79%, Turn 89%)
Hero shows K♥ A♥ (High Card, Ace) (PreFlop 75%, Flop 21%, Turn 11%)
UTG wins 6,190.00

Tour #2

PokerStars - $1.50+$0.25|75/150 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: 1,540.00
UTG: 1,840.00
MP: 2,080.00
CO: 1,600.00
BTN: 4,760.00
Hero (SB): 1,680.00

Hero posts SB 75.00, BB posts BB 150.00

Pre Flop: (225.00) Hero has T♣ K♦

UTG calls 150.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 1,680.00 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls 1,530.00

Flop: (3510.00, 2 players) 2♣ 9♠ 6♠

Turn: (3510.00, 2 players) J♥

River: (3510.00, 2 players) 2♥

Hero shows T♣ K♦ (One Pair, Twos) (PreFlop 59%, Flop 72%, Turn 14%)
UTG shows J♣ Q♠ (Two Pair, Jacks and Twos) (PreFlop 41%, Flop 28%, Turn 86%)
UTG wins 3,510.00

Tour #3

PokerStars - $1.50+$0.25|300/600 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: 3,175.00
BTN: 1,305.00
SB: 6,090.00
Hero (BB): 2,930.00

UTG posts ante 50.00, BTN posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, Hero posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 300.00, Hero posts BB 600.00

Pre Flop: (1100.00) Hero has Q♥ A♥

fold, fold, SB raises to 1,800.00, Hero raises to 2,880.00 and is all-in, SB calls 1,080.00

Flop: (5960.00, 2 players) Q♣ 4♦ J♥

Turn: (5960.00, 2 players) J♣

River: (5960.00, 2 players) 2♥

SB shows K♦ J♦ (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (PreFlop 39%, Flop 24%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows Q♥ A♥ (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks) (PreFlop 61%, Flop 76%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 5,960.00

Tour #4

PokerStars - $1.50+$0.25|75/150 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG+1: 1,325.00
MP: 1,720.00
CO: 1,980.00
BTN: 2,190.00
Hero (SB): 1,560.00
BB: 2,065.00
UTG: 2,660.00

Hero posts SB 75.00, BB posts BB 150.00

Pre Flop: (225.00) Hero has 7♦ A♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 1,560.00 and is all-in, BB calls 1,410.00

Flop: (3120.00, 2 players) T♣ 4♣ K♠

Turn: (3120.00, 2 players) J♠

River: (3120.00, 2 players) T♥

Hero shows 7♦ A♦ (One Pair, Tens) (PreFlop 61%, Flop 12%, Turn 11%)
BB shows T♠ 6♠ (Three of a Kind, Tens) (PreFlop 39%, Flop 88%, Turn 89%)
BB wins 3,120.00

i have a tone of hands to post but there's no point.

point is that you can't win like this. 350 tourneys and profit of 15 $ ? ahahaha

also 350 sngs is a very small sample size because variance in turbo sngs is huge
have fun
also u do not have any idea what a bad beat is


NightFrostaSS
Joined: 25.10.2008
Alficor1
Joined: 16.06.2010

Originally posted by Bliausmas

Originally posted by k4ileb
imo pokerstars is the most rigged site. it's so obvious.

i recently deposited 100$ to multitable 1.75$ Turbos 9man SnGs

If you honestly believe that the sentence in bold is true, you are uber-stupid for making the underlined thing.

Wp sir! :f_biggrin:


I am not going to say stars is rigged but i too have good success on fulltilt great succuess on pkr first three tourneys i played on pkr after depositing i had two final tables and a 15th which was a cash but my point is on stars the hands follow when multitabling watch close my main ex i was on two tables and i had pocket kk the 2nd table came up and i had kk at exact same time next hand ace 3 off 2nd table comes up yep ace 3 off same time next hand ten 6 off now i decide to watch the play two sixes hit the board i would have had a set sixes but would of lost to a boat 2nd table comes up and pow yep ten 6 too so i played it this time just to see what happened and yep i flopped trip sixes and lost to a boat so the hands follow and i have many more everytime i multitable i get same hands at the same time way too often. you see quads many times a day and many other things that don't happen on other sites and the software is so predictable i even guessed what would come on the board next two hands and on the 3rd hand my hole cards and i got all 3 right without a crystal ball so what you think of that all you stars fans


Originally posted by FACSKING
I have played jokerstars on and off for the past 4 years - I keep leaving as I am sick of the improbable hands that appear to beat huge hands - I keep going back to try again

you know the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result