I am still wondering, why are you playing on pokerstars ? If you think it's rigged, just quit it.
if you had last two sessions like me you wouldn't think otherwise ♦ I've lost 7 times in row KK
Sets vs draws etc.. If I was hitting it was bottom pair or nothing. And made hands got screwed 2/3 of time. Amazing. I loved it..
Its like this with stars. One session I make about $ 10 and then grind it down with the very same play I made the $ 10. Now I am back to where I have started and have one very successful session to get me profit $ 10 and then falling back again. You play the same and you get screwed to be about even?! And there is so many hands I go with edge and still end up being even?
Can someone explain to me how can 65-35 translate into being even? This average coinflip would work in real world over 5k hands, 10k hands, 1000k hands??
I need that FTP funkin rakeback account. But there I am fighting for another record. Guiness record for no reply from Full Tilt support.
If people think the worse hand always wins, then play that way and see how far you will build your BR ...
im sure it's rigged more so in the tournaments. think about it if ur in a tournament with 9000 ppl have to finist it as fast as possable. right?
Originally posted by Berzerger
Originally posted by Classified181
I deposited $100 on stars and grinded 10/25c and got my roll up to $975 with bonuses cleared,etc within a month. Next month, continued to grind my ass off and finished the second month with an EV line of +485 for a result of around -$825. I dont think its rigged as such, but can not convince myself there is not some kind of manipulation going on. I've played a hell of a lot of live poker and never ran anywhere concievably close to this bad ever.Terrible BRM, you're not doing anything to maximise your winnings. You should have started with the $0.50/1 games, then you would have had around $3000 at the end of the month so that you could handle that -$825 swing with no problem. Next time you'll know better.
i dont know if you meaning this,but a sit n go player what bnkrm should follow to maximize his winnings?
I have final conclusion..
It is always rigged when I run bad and when I play bad.
Those factors makes me ultimate whinner!
Originally posted by tinman166
im sure it's rigged more so in the tournaments. think about it if ur in a tournament with 9000 ppl have to finist it as fast as possable. right?
Flawless logic. Shut it down, now.
You shoved 11+ BBs into an UTG limper with K10 offsuit, and you're claiming that the other players play was wrong calling off with KJ suited with 3 BBs already invested, to a less than 5 BB stack, is some sort of mistake and a ridiculous rigged suckout? Come on man..
Originally posted by mattisks
I have final conclusion..It is always rigged when I run bad and when I play bad.
Those factors makes me ultimate whinner!
story of the thread.
I love these threads. Reminds me how i felt, very briefly, when i first started playing online. Then i started playing out live too and boy! i've seen some crazy beats playing live, weird that huh? .. I soon realised that this is poker.
Just check out Negreanu on high stakes poker. He has beat after beat in most of the series, never seen anyone run so bad. I started to feel sorry for him lol
I know that if i ever started to think online poker was rigged and felt the urge to start creating threads to try and convice others then i would seriously consider finding another hobby to satisfy me ♦ I lost 7 times in a row all in with AA once .. i still have the win/lose tally chart for that too in a notepad as a reminder of how bad it can get at times.
Anyhow, i could babble on all day about this but i wont
.. gl and I hope your luck changes and pokerstars decides to rig someone else for a change.
it is all rigged thats for sure. every single casino network is using different software and thats why you see different runs. as for example jokerstars loves fullhouse, you will see often this on stars. then play in rooms like merge gaming and you need to wait long time for fullhouse, they love flush. its amazing how often a flush wins there.
everybody who is saying no the pokercasino dont cheat with the rng are false.
every casino use it to create rake and helps to keep fishes alive. thats the truth. nuff said
bye
I'll explain the meaning of the title of this post in the end. for starters:
Good and bad beats MUST happen.
I would be inclined to say the poker rooms fiddled with the RNGs IF these beats did not occur.
As to flushes being more common on one room and full houses on another - BS!
I've heard that complaint too many times and 0 proof. No one has yet to come up with his database of 100k or so hands on two different rooms and shown statistically different results...
and flushes... are SUPPOSED to win in the vast majority of cases.
As to flushes losing to full houses... rare... but any time an opponent refuses to fold with 3 of a suit on the board, it may not even be a bad beat at all, because he may have a set... sets have a 33% of becoming a full house or quads flop to river.
In the WSOP 2008, a player got busted out of the event... The losing hand: QUAD ACES!!!... He ran against a royal flush... (the odds of that occurrence are 2.7 Billion to 1). And this was a live event. It happens!
One problem is that there are billions of different billion to 1 events... and you'll get to see some of them... it's just impossible to predict when and where. and they help you more often than not.
also - track your hands with Holdem Manager / Elephant or some other tracker overtime and you'll see things tend to balance out in the luck department...overtime
Finally, fish have very good luck. Or so it seems. They should have it. Mathematically!
They play far too many situations... so sometime, they draw out on you...
Good players mostly play good situation, so they start OUT in a better situation over the fish... That's why you don't think of yourself as being lucky when you win... Only the one who started out with the worse hand can draw out on the other guy....he's still a long term loser.
Actually, anyone who claims a site is rigged should show proof.
A proof cannot be a hand or a small collection of hands as showing just the ones where things went wrong for you is ridiculous grounds for such claims.
databases.
Show your large database of 100k+ hands (which you have unless you've been playing for just a couple of months on and off).
I'm sure anyone who can do that will win the sympathy, understanding, and perhaps.... respect of the poker community ![]()
no takers?
Originally posted by NoOneSpcl
Actually, anyone who claims a site is rigged should show proof.
A proof cannot be a hand or a small collection of hands as showing just the ones where things went wrong for you is ridiculous grounds for such claims.databases.
Show your large database of 100k+ hands (which you have unless you've been playing for just a couple of months on and off).I'm sure anyone who can do that will win the sympathy, understanding, and perhaps.... respect of the poker community
no takers?
PROOF:

Q.E.D.