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cobby
Joined: 14.09.2007

Hey, there was playing a 100$ freeroll. I did very well. Played tight with doubling up from time to time. I was about place 200 of 800 left with my stack of about 7000 until this situation occured.
I mean it's a tournament and in these online tournaments shouldn't you grab your balls from time to time to stay alive at all (because of the short blind levels; although it's quite long for onlin tournaments at Full tilt with 10minutes and small increaments)?

Nevertheless, here the game:

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $50/$100
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $945
UTG+1: $37324
MP1: $6842
MP2: $13240
Hero: $7040
CO: $995
Button: $11606
SB: $2835
BB: $8809

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with J♥ Q♥
3 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: 8♣ Q♦ 6♦ ($450, 4 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $100, Hero raises to $300, 2 folds, MP2 calls.

Turn: J♠ ($1050, 2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $500, MP2 raises to $1700, Hero calls.

River: 6♠ ($4450, 2 players)
MP2 is all-in $11140, Hero calls all-in $4940.
Uncalled bets: $6200 returned to MP2.

Results:
Final pot: $14330
MP2 showed 8d 8s
Hero mucks Jh Qh

Did I play well? Did i made significant mistakes? Just a bad beat?
Like to hear your comments.
Greetings
-cobby


7 replies

i would've reraised all in on the turn. i usually stop playing those speculative hands when the blinds are so high, but i don't think it's really wrong to call here preflop. nh, ul.


Unam
Joined: 17.08.2006

That is exactly why I fold these kind of hands here, you are going broke with TP, OK you make 2 pair on the turn and you can't fold it there, but you made the pot big with TP no kicker in a 6 handed pot.

When you get action on these boards, you are most likely beat.
So don't get into trouble and fold these hands.


cobby
Joined: 14.09.2007

ok, sounds plausible.
So in essence. Hands like KJ, KT, QJ i should fold if i don't make my monster in a multiway pot?
What if i'm up against 2 other opponents? It's not a real multiway pot but quiet more probability than if i'm up against one opponent.

EDIT: Unam, i bet on the flop to define my hand. In the last hands i saw calling and raising with real mediocre hands, so i wouldn't have called a raise. But the turn was my misfortune, i guess.
In my opinion the raise on the flop was not bad, because i didn't raise much, just to get to know where i stand (i mean my opponents) did also know that it was a multiway pot).


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

unam means he'd rather not play these hands at all = would fold preflop


Unam
Joined: 17.08.2006

@ coby, your play postlop is OK and that is exactly the problem with these hands, you can't fold any more and still you are way behind, you are damned to go broke in these situations and that is exactly what where chenny understood what I meant, fold this preflop.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

i didn't say i agreed, i said i understood ;).

thing about playing marginal hands like this is correctly guessing future bets and playing those odds appropriately.

obviously nothing wrong with how you played your hand postflop


cobby
Joined: 14.09.2007

ai, ok, so these hands just make too much trouble in a multiway pot after the flop when you don't hit your monster.
Thanks guys :)