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[Closed] Full Tilt - $2+$0.25|80/160 NL - Holdem - 3 players

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ramjack
Joined: 22.02.2009

Full Tilt - $2+$0.25|80/160 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: 5,970.00
Hero (BB): 3,735.00
BTN: 3,795.00

SB posts SB 80.00, Hero posts BB 160.00

Pre Flop: (240.00) Hero has Q♣ Q♥

BTN raises to 480.00, fold, Hero calls 320.00

Flop: (1040.00, 2 players) 4♣ T♥ 8♣
Hero checks, BTN bets 480.00
...

How will you play this and why?


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wategun7
Joined: 09.10.2010

Firstly I would 3bet preflop (as I would 3bet a wide-ish range). You could go for an induce to say from 1k to 1.2k, or just 3bet shove. The 3bet shove range is villain dependent of course. If he is opening 75% of buttons then you can 3bet shove very wide- something like 50%- profitably.

Button is making a mistake by 3x raising preflop with such low stacks- a minraise to 2.5x is probably optimal (slightly more than minraise to get bigger fe against fish). Actually I think he can only play a tight range profitably when he 3xes... (haven't worked out the maths).

Also with these stacks, calling a 3x oop is quite bad imo. Since what range of hands can you call profitably? You basically need to decide on the flop whether to go with your hand or to fold, and you only hit 1/3 of the time, and stack sizes are very awkward. So you might as well exploit his 3x raise preflop by restealing wide (and because of icm he can't even make break evenish cEV calls).

As played I would checkraise flop to 1.2k or something like that (maybe even checkraise shove since you are committed anyway- again I would checkraise shove a whole range of hands).


wategun7
Joined: 09.10.2010

Of course my play is trying to maximize your EV in this situation with any hand. But if you specifically want to know the best play to maximize EV when you hold QQ then maybe calling oop is ok (e.g. if you know villain opens 100% and cbets 100%).

Since your goal is to maximize your overall EV long term I don't recommend this. Since you would have to fold out a large part of your range which would have been easily profitable by 3bet shoving pre.


Y0d4
Joined: 03.05.2006

I would 3bet this always, as I think people play back enough to make it more profitable then flopping an overcard and not knowing villains postflop tendencies.
As played, I'd checkraise the flop and try to stack off.