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Originally posted by kenthmp
about 3.50 playing, 3.50 studying.

Play more, study less

And don't for one second think I am against studying - I read the articles, I watch the videos, I use the hand history forum; but nothing NOTHING, works better than experience - it is so hard to understand the articles - position, brm, cbet, stop n go etc etc etc without playing 100.000 hands and then it clicks and you think - 'wow, easy'.

So study yes but play at the right BRM and play a lot and soon you will be a winning player.

And then lose the lot on FT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers

Jass


cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

how much can you earn every hour on poker? I am been playing for 1 year more or less and now starting to study or watch video, but I have never seen great profits... just equal...


doctorkgb
Joined: 01.04.2009

equal is good


cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

how much can you earn every week or every day playing poker online?


Originally posted by cekpirus88
how much can you earn every week or every day playing poker online?

cekpirus88 :)

It depends what stakes you're playing and how good you are. But you can earn from 30$/h to 500$/h, maybe even 1000$/h (or higher).

Cheers,
Michal


cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

wow how can you earn so much per hour :f_love:? why i am still even with the money on my account? do you do also private coaching? :f_grin:


well basically our coaches are pretty awesome at poker because they have devoted countless hours and thought into it :)

you can check out the coaching schedules here: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/coaching/
just put in the filters that you need (eg, if you play NL/FL or SNG, etc)

smiles,
wendy


cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

I have been playing poker almost 2 years but I can not earn so much.. do you think because I have not won so much .. why do you think so?
I have recently but I am playing many hours every day... i d like to think as profession but i d like to see result.. what should I do?


well, we will have to keep improving our game until we get there :) i dont think it is impossible. very hard, very time consuming, but possible :)


Lately I've been picking up poker again, I've used to play poker as my part time job when I was 18. In those day I always look at my earnings made per hour, just like a real job.

I mainly used that mindset to build my bankroll, once you build your bankroll I used to take shots for max. profits on a good run.

Now, I'm again starting to grind so even I must build my bankroll again. I play mostly session for max. 4 hours. and always keep my hourly rate in mind. This keeps me away from tilting and the downswings I used to have.

I hope you have something on my mindset, you can also follow my blog: Road to succes


vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008

Poker is in a sense just like school.

On the lower limits, some people get by fine by "slacking", thus not studying a whole lot and not putting in much effort since they naturally pick up on things that enables them to beat the game. Just as some barely have to study to get C/B in school. Others have to put in way more effort to reach the same results.

At a certain time, we're gonna come across less bad players and more players who has just an easy time as us getting by with no effort. Either that, or people who simply outwork us. The higher limits we play, the more true this becomes imo.

There is sooo much to learn about poker, and to get to where Sapheal is you need to put in years and years of countless hours of studying and playing. Even then you are not gauranteed the same successrate.

Poker is like starting a business of your own, or getting a college degree. Whilst you educate yourself or whilst your company is growing, you most likely won't be able to survive on it as a income.

Only once your company grew big and successfull enough, you can start making a living off it. And your degree won't earn you any money until you've learnt enough to master the profession and you're given a job.

It's completely up to you how fast your company (poker) grows, and at what successrate. Variance may give you a boost or slow you down, but the learning part is completely up to you. It's completely up to you to outwork your competition. It's up to you to develope a mindset that will allow you to play poker for a living. It's up to you to seek out all the information you're gonna need.

By no means am I trying to discourage anyone, it IS possible to make a shitload of money with poker, it's just not gonna come easy. :) If you dedicate yourself to poker the way you would dedicate yourself to a college degree or a business, you can certainly make a career for yourself!

Chop chop, lots of work to do! :)


Vonkl explains it real good, the main reason for me to start playing poker is to have my own start capital for my own business. Nowadays starting a business all the banks ask for own investments before reaching out a loan where I'm living


Originally posted by vonki
Poker is in a sense just like school.

On the lower limits, some people get by fine by "slacking", thus not studying a whole lot and not putting in much effort since they naturally pick up on things that enables them to beat the game. Just as some barely have to study to get C/B in school. Others have to put in way more effort to reach the same results.

At a certain time, we're gonna come across less bad players and more players who has just an easy time as us getting by with no effort. Either that, or people who simply outwork us. The higher limits we play, the more true this becomes imo.

There is sooo much to learn about poker, and to get to where Sapheal is you need to put in years and years of countless hours of studying and playing. Even then you are not gauranteed the same successrate.

Poker is like starting a business of your own, or getting a college degree. Whilst you educate yourself or whilst your company is growing, you most likely won't be able to survive on it as a income.

Only once your company grew big and successfull enough, you can start making a living off it. And your degree won't earn you any money until you've learnt enough to master the profession and you're given a job.

It's completely up to you how fast your company (poker) grows, and at what successrate. Variance may give you a boost or slow you down, but the learning part is completely up to you. It's completely up to you to outwork your competition. It's up to you to develope a mindset that will allow you to play poker for a living. It's up to you to seek out all the information you're gonna need.

By no means am I trying to discourage anyone, it IS possible to make a shitload of money with poker, it's just not gonna come easy. :) If you dedicate yourself to poker the way you would dedicate yourself to a college degree or a business, you can certainly make a career for yourself!

Chop chop, lots of work to do! :)

:heart:


cekpirus88
Joined: 16.06.2011

hi when do you think you can became a really good player? i mean after reading some books, after winning few big tournaments in a row, when you somehow can understand what cards have our opponent?


that is a really hard question cekpirus.

what exactly do you mean by a really good player? i dont think reading some books or luckboxing a few tournaments are any guarantee that someone is a good player.

the only thing i would worry about is just to keep learning and keep constantly improving myself in the game. :)


TonyRice
Joined: 30.01.2010

+1 to what fizzy says there.

It takes a lot of hard work and effort as all our winning players here will tell you. You wont just wake up one day and be amazing im sure you have been reading the articles and watching the videos but why not set up a blog its a great way for keeping track of your progress and its good motivation too because you always want to prove yourself to your followers or at least i do(or i will when i finally start updating again).
Also whilst telling your story the readers of your blog are there to help you through the tough times and the downswings.

Its completely up to you if you start one or not but why not have a look through and see how they have helped our other members in their journeys and then decide.

Your Poker Blogs There's the link for you

Carl