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supergaijin
Joined: 03.09.2010

I struggle with what really should be an elementary spot in early stages...

OOP with AKo and villain calls 3-Bet; as normal don't connect with any of the flop, give up the possible free card and let Villain push you off a 3-bet pot or c-bet and start building a big pot with A / K high??

Everest - $0.00+$0.00|15/30 NL - Holdem - 10 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP+1: 1,500.00
MP+2: 1,500.00
LP: 1,480.00
CO: 1,460.00
BTN: 1,450.00
Hero (SB): 1,480.00
BB: 1,570.00
UTG: 1,500.00
UTG+1: 1,500.00
MP: 1,560.00

Hero posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00

Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has A♣ K♠

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 60.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 180.00, fold, MP+1 calls 120.00

Flop: (390.00, 2 players) 5♥ Q♥ 9♠
Hero bets 300.00, MP+1 calls 300.00

Turn: (990.00, 2 players) 4♥
Hero checks, MP+1 checks

River: (990.00, 2 players) Q♠
Hero checks, MP+1 checks


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I would prefer to just call villain raise preflop and not 3bet at all. Keep those dominated hands in his range.

As played cbet-fold flop, but really yo are wasting chips with such huge cbet size. Around 200 is good. Just give up if you meet tresistance. Also there is small chance that AK is best hand.


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supergaijin
Joined: 03.09.2010

Thanks for the feedback ghaleon... Don't disagree but have a few questions.

If simply flat call PF I am guessing you aren't donking on this flop so what is your line? check/fold or check/call... Villain has to be c-betting almost his entire range here surely?

With a smaller C-Bet size on a draw heavy board do you not find that that only 1/2 pot will keep villain in the hand with draws? I realize that in this situation I obv don't have a hand to protect but I like to keep my c-bet size based on board texture rather than hand strength so as to not give any free information. Does that make sense??

What would your sizing be if flop was K :heart: not the Q would you still advise bet size 200?

Again, not disagreeing with your assesment just want to better understand as this makes up a very high percentage of the kind of post flop situations I am finding myself in.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well I might be wrong in this as this is some sort of freeroll or something? But villain should not really have that much of a draws in his range. Well flush draw and perhaps some gut shot draws. Also this is 3bet HU pot so my bet sizes in general are bit smaller. Bet of 200 with K :heart: would be fine for me. But also if villain is unknown or fish it is possible to actually bet smaller when bluffing and bigger when value betting. I mean you don't have history with him and I would say that as default most of players on low stakes won't even take reads on bet sizes.

Heh well actually I read at first somehow that villain raised 3x preflop and it was 10/20...

Still call preflop has several good things. Much more of those dominated hands stay in his range. But if he is going to continue with many of those dominated hands then 3betting is better. Villain won't get option to 4bet (what is your plan if villain 4bet to 380+?). If I call I am just going to check-fold often if completely missed.


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supergaijin
Joined: 03.09.2010

makes sense! thanks for you help :)

p.s. this was a $10 + 1 apparently PT3 hasn't been registering tournament buy in fee for everest for some reason.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Originally posted by ghaleon
I would prefer to just call villain raise preflop and not 3bet at all. Keep those dominated hands in his range.

As played cbet-fold flop, but really yo are wasting chips with such huge cbet size. Around 200 is good. Just give up if you meet tresistance. Also there is small chance that AK is best hand.

This. 3betting isn't that bad vs a minraise though.


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