
Pre-Lesson 2 Continued
Decided to break this up into a couple of posts, hope that is okay.
The next question (or 3 questions) I had difficulty with are these:
Question 8:
PartyPoker $10 NL Hold'em (10 handed)
Stacks & Stats
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($10)
UTG+2 ($10)
MP ($10)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($10)
BU ($10)
SB ($10)
Hero ($10)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q
5 folds, MP2 raises $0.40, 1 fold, BU calls $0.40, 1 fold, Hero…?
Fold (0 Points)
Call (0 Points)
3-bet/broke (3 Points)
3-bet/fold (0 Points)
Your answer 3-bet/fold (0 Points)
Queens are too strong for a call and you have to 3-bet for value here. In this particular spot it would be a squeeze (3-bet after a raise and a call). If you decide to squeeze for value (which is the case here), you have to go broke after a 4-bet. That's why you should go for 3-bet/broke.
Question 9:
PartyPoker $10 NL Hold'em (10 handed)
Stacks & Stats
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($10)
UTG+2 ($10)
MP ($10)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($10)
BU ($10)
SB ($10)
Hero ($10)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q
5 folds, MP2 raises $0.40, 1 fold, BU calls $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises $1.80, MP2 pushes All-In, 1 fold, Hero…?
Fold (0 Points)
Call (3 Points)
Your answer Fold (0 Points)
Like we just said: You 3-bet the queens for value, so now you have to go broke. This is a call.
Question 10:
PartyPoker $10 NL Hold'em (10 handed)
Stacks & Stats
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($10)
UTG+2 ($10)
MP ($10)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($10)
Hero ($10)
SB ($10)
BB ($10)
Preflop: Hero is BU with Q , Q
7 folds, Hero raises $0.40, 1 fold, BB raises $1.20, Hero…?
Question: Hero wants to 4-bet, what's the right raise size?
$2.40 (0 Points)
$2.70 (3 Points)
$2.90 (3 Points)
$3.50 (0 Points)
Your answer .40 (0 Points)
Usually 2.2 - 2.5 times the original 3-bet is the right size for a 4-bet. Accordingly, it should be between 27 and 30BB at max in this spot.
$2.40 would not be enough, villain would get better odds than he should have. $3.50 would be too much, you would be commited with nearly every hand so you can never 4-bet as a bluff.
Now the basic pre-flop strategy tells us to fold everything except for AA & KK if we are faced with a raise behind us so for these questions I kept that in mind but in these questions we don't ever lay our QQ down.
Some math for this is given in Question 11 (& 12)
Question 11:
PartyPoker $10 NL Hold'em (10 handed)
Stacks & Stats
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($10)
UTG+2 ($10)
MP ($10)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($10)
Hero ($10)
SB ($10)
BB ($10)
Preflop: Hero is BU with Q , Q
7 folds, Hero raises $0.40, 1 fold, BB raises $1.20, Hero raises $3.50, BB pushes All-In
Question: Looking at the math, can you still fold in this spot?
Yes (0 Points)
No (3 Points)
Your answer No (3 Points)
Just like explained in the question above, such a high raise commits you with many hands. This is not an issue with queens, but if you play weaker hands and 4-bet as a bluff, you might get in trouble.
You 4-bet to 35BB so you have to invest another 65BB to be part of a 200BB pot. This means you need 32,5% equity (65/200).
Equity analysis
Equity Win Tie
BU 40.21% 38.35% 1.86% { QQ }
BB 59.79% 57.93% 1.86% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
No doubt, but look at the following:
Equity analysis
Equity Win Tie
BU 34.03% 33.74% 0.29% { 22 }
BB 65.97% 65.68% 0.29% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
We also get enough equity with AK, so to me it looks like we get enough equity in this situation to go broke with any pocket pair but is that something you'd actually recommend?
Also, is it therefore okay to play QQ like you would play AA & KK?