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NL Holdem $30(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,965)
($1,035)
Dealt to Hero 7♠ 2♣
calls $15, Hero checks
FLOP ($60) J♦ 9♥ 7♣
Hero checks, bets $60, Hero raises to $150, calls $90
TURN ($360) J♦ 9♥ 7♣ 5♥
Hero checks, bets $180, Hero folds
wins $360
It's not that wet of a board. I prefer flatting flop and folding to further aggression vs a random since you're not providing any reads for us.
Agree with wasy8 to c/c with no reads and fold turn.
Vs some opponents I could even c/f flop, cause you have to fold the turn anyways if he barrels and the board is not super wet, but very coordinated...
An agressive opp could bet a lot of turn cards.
or
if opponent atacks a lot of limped flops, you could c/r as you did, planing to barrel a lot of turns. Basicly turning your hand into a complete bluff.
I do not agree with wasy and santos on this one:
1) What do you want to have value from? A high?
2) Unless he allways limp and stabs POT-SIZE, I would put him on a pure value hand (in which case you are way behind).
For me, the hand is dead once he stabs POT-SIZE on the flop. Things might be different if he would bet 1/2, 2/3 ps.
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1) Air and gutshots.
2) You might be right. But it's a guessing game. You can also say that his value range is thin, cause doesn't make that much sense to pot 2nd/botton pair.
If I know that he's good, I never c/c cause it will be hard to go to showdown, but we don't know that.
I think c/c is very close to c/f, but on lower limits maybe c/c > c/f.
Plus, you see how he reacts on the turn and get more reads.
Hi all,
Against someone who seems aggressive, c/f flop is best. Against someone who you think will shut down quite often on later streets unimproved, check/calling is best. Reads really help. Otherwise: I guess santostr's thoughts are about right: on lower limits c/c > c/f, higher limits c/f > c/c.
